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post Aug 18, 2011 - 9:48 PM
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Ok guys and Gals ...please answer the questions in the picture ...it realy conffusing......
if you cant read the words in the letter box click in the corner of pic to enlarge it

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post Aug 18, 2011 - 10:30 PM
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I don't see what the trouble is.

the axle is in 2 parts.
the inner and the outer. They bolt together.
the inner goes inside the tranny and bolts to "the 1st CVs after the center bracket"
the outer is the CV from that point to the end that goes into the hub.

FYI the "center bracket" in your pic is the carrier bearing w/bracket. It clips to the carrier bolted to the bolck. For the e153 you need to use the MR2 turbo carrier and bolt that to the back of the st205 block, then the bearing clips into it and holds the axle in the tranny. Without it the pass side axle slides out of the tranny with nothing holding it in.



A that is the "inner" (MR2 turbo, LSD depending)
B that is the "outer" NOT FROM AN st205. The 205 axles aren't 2 parts, you cannot in any way use an st205 axle in the e153 tranny. You need to use outers from an st185 or from some camry (I can't remember the years)
C full length to me is the entire length.

more axle pics here


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post Aug 18, 2011 - 11:48 PM
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QUOTE (Batman722 @ Aug 18, 2011 - 10:30 PM) *
I don't see what the trouble is.

the axle is in 2 parts.
the inner and the outer. They bolt together.
the inner goes inside the tranny and bolts to "the 1st CVs after the center bracket"
the outer is the CV from that point to the end that goes into the hub.

FYI the "center bracket" in your pic is the carrier bearing w/bracket. It clips to the carrier bolted to the bolck. For the e153 you need to use the MR2 turbo carrier and bolt that to the back of the st205 block, then the bearing clips into it and holds the axle in the tranny. Without it the pass side axle slides out of the tranny with nothing holding it in.



A that is the "inner" (MR2 turbo, LSD depending)
B that is the "outer" NOT FROM AN st205. The 205 axles aren't 2 parts, you cannot in any way use an st205 axle in the e153 tranny. You need to use outers from an st185 or from some camry (I can't remember the years)
C full length to me is the entire length.

more axle pics here



Awesome that explains allot man.. Batman just became my new hero lol Thanks


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post Aug 19, 2011 - 12:20 AM
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ok so last question on the driver side i use what axle ??


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post Aug 19, 2011 - 8:47 AM
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QUOTE (timdog1720 @ Aug 19, 2011 - 1:20 AM) *
ok so last question on the driver side i use what axle ??

MR2 turbo inner, st185 outer, same set up.
The pass side and driver's side inners are different lengths.

You posted a pic of the pass side axle.
Did you look at the axle pics in my link ?


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post Aug 19, 2011 - 12:10 PM
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Good Thread. This makes it crystal clear compared to the sticky.
post Aug 19, 2011 - 7:17 PM
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QUOTE (Batman722 @ Aug 19, 2011 - 8:47 AM) *
QUOTE (timdog1720 @ Aug 19, 2011 - 1:20 AM) *
ok so last question on the driver side i use what axle ??

MR2 turbo inner, st185 outer, same set up.
The pass side and driver's side inners are different lengths.

You posted a pic of the pass side axle.
Did you look at the axle pics in my link ?



yea i did ... so the driver side axles are going to be my regular axle from my 6g celica ?


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post Aug 19, 2011 - 9:15 PM
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QUOTE (timdog1720 @ Aug 19, 2011 - 8:17 PM) *
QUOTE (Batman722 @ Aug 19, 2011 - 8:47 AM) *
QUOTE (timdog1720 @ Aug 19, 2011 - 1:20 AM) *
ok so last question on the driver side i use what axle ??

MR2 turbo inner, st185 outer, same set up.
The pass side and driver's side inners are different lengths.

You posted a pic of the pass side axle.
Did you look at the axle pics in my link ?



yea i did ... so the driver side axles are going to be my regular axle from my 6g celica ?

no.


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post Aug 20, 2011 - 12:43 AM
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QUOTE (Batman722 @ Aug 19, 2011 - 10:15 PM) *
QUOTE (timdog1720 @ Aug 19, 2011 - 8:17 PM) *
QUOTE (Batman722 @ Aug 19, 2011 - 8:47 AM) *
QUOTE (timdog1720 @ Aug 19, 2011 - 1:20 AM) *
ok so last question on the driver side i use what axle ??

MR2 turbo inner, st185 outer, same set up.
The pass side and driver's side inners are different lengths.

You posted a pic of the pass side axle.
Did you look at the axle pics in my link ?



yea i did ... so the driver side axles are going to be my regular axle from my 6g celica ?

no.


oh OK so they are going to be the st205 axles....by the way I'm not talking about the passenger side anymore ..just the riverside the wheel that's on the driver side of the car what axle is rotating that tire?


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post Aug 20, 2011 - 7:42 AM
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wtf guy ?
That question is answered 2 times in this thread.

if you want to use an e153 tranny you need both inner axles from an MR2 turbo. Then you need the outer halves from an st185. Bolt them together, use a spacer if you want, and that's it.

I'll use pictures so maybe you can understand because words aren't working.



^^ axles from 185 on the left and MR2 turbo on right.

the GT, ST, ST205, ST185 axles DON'T FIT IN THE E153 TRANNY.
MR2 inners DO.

MR2 outers DO NOT FIT IN OUR HUBS.
ST185 outers DO.

GT, ST, and ST205 axles are in one peice, they DO NOT bolt together like the MR2 and st185 axles.

so you put the MR2 turbo inners (that go into the tranny, driver and pass side) bolted up with st185 90-93 all-trac outers (driver and pass side because they fit in our Celica hubs).

You dig ?

If you ask another question that I've already answered it in this thread, I will erease my posts and give you all wrong info.


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post Aug 20, 2011 - 12:14 PM
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QUOTE (Batman722 @ Aug 20, 2011 - 7:42 AM) *
wtf guy ?
That question is answered 2 times in this thread.

if you want to use an e153 tranny you need both inner axles from an MR2 turbo. Then you need the outer halves from an st185. Bolt them together, use a spacer if you want, and that's it.

I'll use pictures so maybe you can understand because words aren't working.



^^ axles from 185 on the left and MR2 turbo on right.

the GT, ST, ST205, ST185 axles DON'T FIT IN THE E153 TRANNY.
MR2 inners DO.

MR2 outers DO NOT FIT IN OUR HUBS.
ST185 outers DO.

GT, ST, and ST205 axles are in one peice, they DO NOT bolt together like the MR2 and st185 axles.


funny but yea i got it now its for both sides ...thanks brah

so you put the MR2 turbo inners (that go into the tranny, driver and pass side) bolted up with st185 90-93 all-trac outers (driver and pass side because they fit in our Celica hubs).

You dig ?

If you ask another question that I've already answered it in this thread, I will erease my posts and give you all wrong info.



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post Aug 20, 2011 - 12:40 PM
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QUOTE (Batman722 @ Aug 20, 2011 - 7:42 AM) *
wtf guy ?
That question is answered 2 times in this thread.

if you want to use an e153 tranny you need both inner axles from an MR2 turbo. Then you need the outer halves from an st185. Bolt them together, use a spacer if you want, and that's it.

I'll use pictures so maybe you can understand because words aren't working.


^^ axles from 185 on the left and MR2 turbo on right.

the GT, ST, ST205, ST185 axles DON'T FIT IN THE E153 TRANNY.
MR2 inners DO.

MR2 outers DO NOT FIT IN OUR HUBS.
ST185 outers DO.

GT, ST, and ST205 axles are in one peice, they DO NOT bolt together like the MR2 and st185 axles.

so you put the MR2 turbo inners (that go into the tranny, driver and pass side) bolted up with st185 90-93 all-trac outers (driver and pass side because they fit in our Celica hubs).

You dig ?

If you ask another question that I've already answered it in this thread, I will erease my posts and give you all wrong info.




ok last question of the day...and dont get mad please.... where is a cheap place to but the two sets of axles???? ebay aint workin


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post Aug 20, 2011 - 1:07 PM
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sorry I got upset, I was frustrated.

you can buy the outers at autozone.


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post Aug 20, 2011 - 5:27 PM
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QUOTE (Batman722 @ Aug 20, 2011 - 1:07 PM) *
sorry I got upset, I was frustrated.

you can buy the outers at autozone.


its kewl..yo im really trying to get into the whole thing so i can be very slow at times.. need pics at times lol...im really smart just get confussed when there is multiple info out there..

but i guess tyhe inners i will have to search for ..my tranny only came with one attach to it got find the passenger inner now but kewl tho


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post Aug 20, 2011 - 10:12 PM
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wow Dustin that was intense lol, one more question about the axles ......

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QUOTE (Batman722 @ Aug 20, 2011 - 7:42 AM) *
wtf guy ?

If you ask another question that I've already answered it in this thread, I will erease my posts and give you all wrong info.


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post Aug 20, 2011 - 10:44 PM
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QUOTE (LimitedGT4 @ Aug 20, 2011 - 10:12 PM) *
wow Dustin that was intense lol, one more question about the axles ...... sike lol some humor i guess (corny maybe)



yea was


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post Aug 21, 2011 - 1:14 PM
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when you switch the shift linkage on the E 153 tranny to make it FWD..... how do yo cover the mr2hole let when taking the old one out ?


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post Aug 21, 2011 - 1:19 PM
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Surprisingly it almost closes off by itself meaning u dnt have to worry about anything geeting in or out of the tranny as the shift linkage will seal it from the inside then just cover lo whole with a stopper or weld it or w.e but the wholes pretty much sealed from the inside
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QUOTE (LimitedGT4 @ Aug 21, 2011 - 2:19 PM) *
Surprisingly it almost closes off by itself meaning u dnt have to worry about anything getting in or out of the tranny as the shift linkage will seal it from the inside then just cover lo whole with a stopper or weld it or w.e but the wholes pretty much sealed from the inside


awesome first good news in a long time...now to just continue to find the dam part for fwd been all over all-track site no one selling ahhhhhhhhhhhh lol


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