Stock GT Strut bar on Vert |
Stock GT Strut bar on Vert |
Aug 14, 2011 - 4:30 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 1, '11 From San Diego, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Ok, I just installed the stock strut bar on a vert. I've been trying to get the TRD version but i am unable to find one in good condition. Anyway I've notice a slight improvement and was just wondering if any other vert owners notice it too. Sometimes I think it's just all in my mind.
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Aug 14, 2011 - 6:42 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 15, '10 From The Best Coast Currently Offline Reputation: 12 (100%) |
All verts are GT, therefor they come with that strut bar stock....
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Aug 14, 2011 - 6:58 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 1, '11 From San Diego, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
All verts are GT, therefor they come with that strut bar stock.... That's what I thought, but after reading some fourms its only on the GT with Sport Options AKA GTS option. My vert didn't come with the strut bar and after looking at the car itself it never had it. The firewall bolt location has two factory stickers covering the holes. When I remove them, they were cleaned and never had a screw in it. -------------------- 1990 Celica Turbo All-Trac, 1977 Celica GT Liftback, 1999 Celica GT Convertible, 2004 Lexus IS300 5-Speed |
Aug 14, 2011 - 7:29 PM |
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Moderator Joined Jun 29, '08 From Denver Currently Offline Reputation: 59 (100%) |
What year is your vert? The later model GT's didn't get the front strut bar. I just added front and rear strut bars to my hatch and I could feel a very noticeable difference. I understand the rear strut bar will make a bigger difference than the front, since it works to tighten the front end.
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Aug 14, 2011 - 7:58 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 5, '09 From Katy/houston Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
i have a 95 vert, it came with strut bar, not sure about any sports package, but i know thats its just a GT.
however, i removed the strut bar in the front, and didnt notice ANY difference. its a daily driver and has never seen the track when in my posesion, but i do make some tight turns and the strut bar didnt really make a difference. and i put it back on a few months back and still no difference. idk, should i be concerned? lol -------------------- For Sale:OEM tail lights - make offer
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Aug 14, 2011 - 8:28 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 1, '11 From San Diego, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
It's a 1999 Vert. From what Keiri said in a earlier fourm the 99 GT came with the GT Sport suspension already on it. The strut bar I have notice it on most GT that I have come across, but I have seen a couple without it (this came from my search for the gen 6 celica, as you may know I just got the car recently). After some more testing with it on and off I can say the difference is there. I had my girlfriend drive the car for a bit with it on, and then I remove it without telling her. All I told her was that I added the K&N filter, but she responeded saying the ride seems slightly different. I asked how, and she said the steering wheel felt different when turning. She doesn't know much about cars. So after I added it back on she said the ride was better and felt normal again. I didn't need to explain anything to her, but just said thanks.
This post has been edited by jlspec: Aug 14, 2011 - 8:29 PM -------------------- 1990 Celica Turbo All-Trac, 1977 Celica GT Liftback, 1999 Celica GT Convertible, 2004 Lexus IS300 5-Speed |
Aug 14, 2011 - 8:29 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 31, '11 From Rochester, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
I took mine off when I first got the car to determine the effectiveness. Toyota wouldn't put it there if it didn't make a difference and I can honestly say that hitting a turn at 30mph without that feels like crap. Then I put it back on and put in the ST205 rear bar. Hit the same curve even faster, with even more control. Now I've got a cross bar that goes between both struts on the way that is designed to go with the OEM strut to firewall bar. I didn't want the TRD one because I'd have to take the whole bar off every time I wanted to do a tune up, or tinker. This one comes off much easier.
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Aug 14, 2011 - 9:06 PM |
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Moderator Joined Jun 29, '08 From Denver Currently Offline Reputation: 59 (100%) |
It was either in '97 or '98 that Toyota stopped putting the strut bar on the USDM GT's.
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Aug 14, 2011 - 9:14 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 31, '11 From Rochester, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
It was either in '97 or '98 that Toyota stopped putting the strut bar on the USDM GT's. I didn't understand that decision. Maybe they thought the side skirts added enough stability This post has been edited by RabidTRD: Aug 14, 2011 - 9:14 PM -------------------- 1994 Toyota Celica GT-S 5S-FE 190k Miles. Project car 1992 Toyota Celica GT 5S-FE 170k Miles. Daily driver/beater 1999 Toyota Camry LE 5S-FE 216K Miles. RIP You will be missed. *ASE Certified General Manager |
Aug 14, 2011 - 11:01 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 1, '11 From San Diego, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I guess after they realize that the 5S-FE was not cutting it, they remove it to save on cost and to target a different group of buyers. The 94-99 Celica from what I have seen looks to be mostly female drives. Guess that's why the Sport Option (GTS Option) was an option to start with instead of calling it GT-S (Grand Touring Sport).
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Aug 19, 2011 - 3:18 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 29, '09 From Lake Ariel, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
it was 98 then cuz my 97 vert has the strut bar
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Aug 19, 2011 - 8:59 PM |
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Btw the vert bar is same one the st205 gets. It has extra bracing around firewall
bolt holes. Just a fyi if anyone goes to buy one from a junkyard get the vert one. -------------------- Old guy with the toys
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Aug 19, 2011 - 9:13 PM |
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It was either in '97 or '98 that Toyota stopped putting the strut bar on the USDM GT's. 98. It's true. Toyota was going for better ride comfort. -------------------- |
Aug 21, 2011 - 11:17 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 1, '11 From San Diego, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Btw the vert bar is same one the st205 gets. It has extra bracing around firewall bolt holes. Just a fyi if anyone goes to buy one from a junkyard get the vert one. What do you mean? The ST204 has the exact same setup. It's the V shape strut bar with two bolts at the firewall. If it's different please post some pic of the GT4, thanks. -------------------- 1990 Celica Turbo All-Trac, 1977 Celica GT Liftback, 1999 Celica GT Convertible, 2004 Lexus IS300 5-Speed |
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