Stainless Steel Braided Vac, Fuel, etc Lines, Looking for products & sites to order them from... Options

[KAOS]

I've been gathering ideas and such for my new engine swap and I'd like to get into the stainless steel lines etc - I know what I'd like to see, but unfortunately; I have no idea what or where to look for them...

I've been through several websites, but I have no idea what I'm looking for, or what I'd need exactly.

Here are some examples of what I mean:





I'm looking for specific sites, and specific kits that I'd need to order. I have no clue when it comes to "an fittings" etc, so if there's anyone willing to share knowledge I would be very appreciative.

I'm looking to replace as many lines as possible with Stainless Steel as well.

Pre-emptive Thank you !!

This post has been edited by KAOS: Nov 28, 2011 - 1:30 PM

[Smaay]

going SS lines is awesome! most things will be in the -6 or -8 range. you can get everything from summit racing or jegs. i have a local race shop that i go to so i get everything the right length

[Fastbird]

Summit or Jegs. But be prepared to open your wallet, going -AN gets expensive QUICK.

Another thing you can do for vacuum lines like that is use tube nuts and go hard lines using aluminum or stainless brake tubing. Looks really trick if done well and is extremely functional and reliable.

And that engine bay above is OMG sexy. VERY VERY nicely done.

[klue]

You need something to connect it to, that means welding on fittings, or adapters. lots of head ache for just a little bling bling

[presure2]

yea, like fastbird said, be prepared to PAY.
those fitting are REALLY expensive, especially when you need them to swivel, ( yes, you NEED them to swivel in most cases) swivel seal hose ends, particularly the 90* or other bends, can easily run 20+$ each.
the sizes are by 1/16ths, meaning 2an = 2/16(1/8") 4an = 1/4" ect
another thing to be aware of is if you get hose with teflon liner instead of rubber or whatever (some of the cheaper stuff comes in that style) it will be alot less flexable before it collapses on itself.
mixing brands of fittings and hoses is also a bad idea, as most companies sizes are just slightly diffrent outer diameter, which can lead to fitment issues and or leaks.
i would as everyone else here suggest summit or jegs if you dont have a local speedshop to buy from. with summit or jegs theyre return policy is really good, so as your planning things, you can get all the fittings you "think" you need, and easily return the unused stuff.

[czwalga]

I've built 3 fuel systems from AN fittings, SS lines.

Personally stay way from the Summit stuff. I did my rx7 fuel system with lines/fittings from them. Basically its SS coated rubber. The fuel vapor leaks through the lines (not a safety issue just an annoyance), and the car forever smells like gas. Quality isn't bad just because its summit (the fittings were fine, no need to spend the $ on the high dollar aeromotive stuff), but just the type of lines.

The celica I learned and went with PTFE hoses/fittings. Price is comparable, but no gas smell. Lines are about 4x harder to make though and they flex a lot less.


Doing all your vacuum lines would be crazy, the only real reason to do the fuel system is because its higher pressure and fuel eats through certain compounds. Vacuum I dont imagine anyone here is running much over 20 PSI, standard silcon lines can be used.

Anyways http://www.anfittingsdirect.com/ where I bought my PTFE stuff. I will warn you the lines are HORRIBLE to make. I made the regular AN lines and it was difficult, but these are much worse just keep that in mind. You might be very frustrated after spending an hour and not having one line made.

Also buy a chissle, and use a sledge/chissle to cut the lines, dont use any kind of cutoff wheel. You dont have to tape them this way.

This post has been edited by czwalga: Nov 28, 2011 - 7:00 PM

[Fastbird]

Also buy a chissle, and use a sledge/chissle to cut the lines, dont use any kind of cutoff wheel. You dont have to tape them this way.

I'd have good luck using a band saw, though not everyone has one of these. I tape them, but I've always gotten perfect cuts this way.

[presure2]

I've never used the summit brand ss hose, but man, I hateful those pfte lines. They collapse on themselves real easy, and the non swivel hose ends absolutly blow.
I've always used earls or russles or aeroquip hose, never had any problem with fuel smell.
What kind of swap your doing would give us more to work with.
Racerx makes a press in fitting for the valve cover on a 2nd or 3rd gen to convert it to an fittings.

[rave2n]

Not knowing a thing about SS lines, I took a look on how the AN lines are assembled. It is extremely close to wiring type N coaxial high modulation wire for RF.

This thread has now forced me to create another budget.

Loving the info supplied.

This post has been edited by rave2n: Nov 28, 2011 - 9:00 PM

[KAOS]

What kind of swap your doing would give us more to work with.

Nothing extravagant... just taking out the 5SFE and dropping in a 3rd Gen 3SGE. I just wanted to clean up the engine bay, and probably do a tuck while I'm at it.

Loving the info supplied.

x 2 - keep it coming.

So, I was more than likely going to swap out the vac lines with the silicone hoses that cwalga mentioned, and keep the stainless steel lines for the fuel, etc. But looking at those pictures - they have more than just the lines, theres new fuel filters, carbon cans, etc. I want to know what brand they are, and what type of performance fuel filter system I can/should get!

Again, lovin the 411. Thanks so much!

[czwalga]

I've never used the summit brand ss hose, but man, I hateful those pfte lines. They collapse on themselves real easy, and the non swivel hose ends absolutly blow.
I've always used earls or russles or aeroquip hose, never had any problem with fuel smell.
What kind of swap your doing would give us more to work with.
Racerx makes a press in fitting for the valve cover on a 2nd or 3rd gen to convert it to an fittings.

I havent had any of the PTFE hoses collapse unless i tried to just testing it out. They make swivels for them so they are just like any other SS line minus the inside. They are much more of a pain in the ass to make though.

Interesting on the smell, i've had other locally have the same problem, but not to the same extent that mine seems to. I'll have to play around with my fuel system with that car if I ever get a chance.



If using a band/cutoff tool, along with having to tape them you get the remnants of the cut inside the line and have to clean them. I'm not that patient haha, the chissel is quicker and easier IMO.

[presure2]

Imma have to try out that hammer&chisel deal, sounds like a cleaner, faster way to "git er done" lol

[Sunny]

Hi,

here is what you need to do a braided fuel line, if it is a gen.3 3S-GTE



greetz

This post has been edited by Sunny: Nov 29, 2011 - 1:33 PM

[czwalga]

Imma have to try out that hammer&chisel deal, sounds like a cleaner, faster way to "git er done" lol

I just have something like in this link. Heavy duty, with like a 2.5lb sledge, and I used a piece of aluminum underneith. About 3-4 decent hits with the sledge and it just pops apart, with a nice clean edge and no fraying.

Like I said i've done it both ways, and this one is much easier!

http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.j...hId=53724275274

[Fastbird]

Imma have to try out that hammer&chisel deal, sounds like a cleaner, faster way to "git er done" lol

I just have something like in this link. Heavy duty, with like a 2.5lb sledge, and I used a piece of aluminum underneith. About 3-4 decent hits with the sledge and it just pops apart, with a nice clean edge and no fraying.

Like I said i've done it both ways, and this one is much easier!

http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.j...hId=53724275274

I'll have to give that a try when I do the fuel lines on my turbo'd Trans Am. Never would have thought about it and would have kept bandsawing it. Thanks for the info.