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 Oct 13, 2011 - 5:27 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 7, '11 From Hampton,Va Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
One day I was driving down the street and my car shuts off I get out look under the hood move the battery to the left and the car gets power again.The next day I try to leave home and the car shuts completely off again and this time when I turned one the radio it shut off faster. I have tried to replace the battery but still no go the Lights wont come on the car acts as if it has no battery at all. People tell me it could be the Alternator but its kind of wierd that it wouldnt even let the door lights come on. Ive checked all the fuses and everything looks good. So what do I do Please help (Cars been Rusting For 2 months now)
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Oct 13, 2011 - 6:21 AM
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Enthusiast  Joined Mar 26, '10 From Portsmouth, OH Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
sounds like a short somewherer
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Oct 13, 2011 - 6:26 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 7, '11 From Hampton,Va Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Thanks
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Oct 13, 2011 - 6:30 AM
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 Moderator Joined Jun 29, '08 From Denver Currently Offline Reputation: 59 (100%) |
Get new battery cables.
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Oct 13, 2011 - 6:33 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 7, '11 From Hampton,Va Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE (richee3 @ Oct 13, 2011 - 6:30 AM)  Get new battery cables. Thank you I will Try that |
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Oct 13, 2011 - 6:38 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
battery cables and check all your grounds./ even create new ones..
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Oct 13, 2011 - 8:39 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
QUOTE (richee3 @ Oct 13, 2011 - 6:30 AM) Get new battery cables. QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Oct 13, 2011 - 6:38 AM) battery cables and check all your grounds./ even create new ones.. This. NEW grounds from the battery, and a new positive cable. cut the stock some ways down from the battery clamp & crimp in the new cable. -------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
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Oct 13, 2011 - 4:17 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 5, '07 From Santa Maria Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Car should be able to run without a battery assuming your alt is good. If you don't have access to a volt meter to check the voltage of the battery while the car is on you could always fire it up and pull the battery cable. If the car shuts off your alt is toast. If it stays running i'm guessing you have a short somewhere.
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Oct 13, 2011 - 4:36 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
The electrical shock of it being connected and disconnected from the battery rapidly will kill the engine, EVEN WITH A GOOD ALT.
My lexus did this EXACT thing. bad battery clamps. -------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
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Oct 13, 2011 - 4:59 PM
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Moderator Joined Jun 29, '08 From Denver Currently Offline Reputation: 59 (100%) |
Yeah, I've never seen a car run without a battery. Even if it gets disconnected for just a second, I've always seen them die.
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Oct 13, 2011 - 5:14 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
The "disconnect your battery while engine is running" is an old test from back in the generator days. the alternator is a whole new creature and needs some capacitance to keep it making power.
Most times it will keep a car running. Not always, though. -------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
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Oct 13, 2011 - 6:55 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 26, '10 From Portsmouth, OH Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
These cars aren't too new to the point that the battery disconnect test won't work. After all, they are 12+years old, depending on the year.I know for a fact that the battery disconnect test works on these cars. At least on the 7a. My alt went bad last summer, car died (no motor, no radio, no lights.. nothing) in the middle of the road. I got it to roll to the side and sat for a sec, gave it one last try and it started. Made it to a restaurant and it died again; had my friend jump it, disconnect battery-car dies. Jump it again to get home and take off alt. Had the alt rebuilt and put back on, started it and let it run for a few min to charge battery. Disconnect battery after that and it keeps running; although longest ive disconnected is around 20-30 sec, but still enough to know that the alt is strong enough to keep it running.
Since your stereo, lights, etc. still all work, I would definitely look into it grounding out somewhere. For some reason this scenario is making me think more of a bad ground somewhere, not likely at the battery either. My brother has an old fox-body that grounds out somewhere. You can be driving it and suddenly die because it vibrates a wire and makes it ground out against the body somewhere- haven't found where yet-which kills the engine. |
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Oct 13, 2011 - 7:42 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 2, '05 From Guam Currently Offline Reputation: 15 (100%) |
the old school battery disconnect while car is running does work on our cars. but if you are able to get the car started, the alt can produce power still. for example start the car, remove the battery while still on. this can show the alternator is still good. do a battery test. is your battery old or not charging correctly, then start looking at your wires. Fuses and stuff are something to look at as well.
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Oct 13, 2011 - 7:48 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 26, '10 From Portsmouth, OH Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
QUOTE (trdproven @ Oct 13, 2011 - 8:42 PM) the old school battery disconnect while car is running does work on our cars. but if you are able to get the car started, the alt can produce power still. for example start the car, remove the battery while still on. this can show the alternator is still good. do a battery test. is your battery old or not charging correctly, then start looking at your wires. Fuses and stuff are something to look at as well. just because it starts doesnt mean alt is still good. could mean there is enough juice still left in the battery. I would still bet on it grounding out somewhere. |
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Oct 14, 2011 - 9:04 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Oct 13, 2011 - 4:36 PM) The electrical shock of it being connected and disconnected from the battery rapidly will kill the engine, EVEN WITH A GOOD ALT. My lexus did this EXACT thing. bad battery clamps. I know of more examples. its a bad battery connection. -------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
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Oct 14, 2011 - 5:45 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 2, '05 From Guam Currently Offline Reputation: 15 (100%) |
QUOTE (d3ath2009 @ Oct 14, 2011 - 10:48 AM) QUOTE (trdproven @ Oct 13, 2011 - 8:42 PM) the old school battery disconnect while car is running does work on our cars. but if you are able to get the car started, the alt can produce power still. for example start the car, remove the battery while still on. this can show the alternator is still good. do a battery test. is your battery old or not charging correctly, then start looking at your wires. Fuses and stuff are something to look at as well. just because it starts doesnt mean alt is still good. could mean there is enough juice still left in the battery. I would still bet on it grounding out somewhere. i don't think you understood me, it wasn't about starting, it was about testing. after it starts, pull the terminals and see if the alternator takes over and keeps the car on. over time, if your alternator is not good, your battery will lose enough juice to even start up, thats why knowing your alternator is good is a big hint. pulling off the battery lets you know pretty good the alt is still good, but what someone was saying up there is that just for knowing you can remove the battery from the car and the alternator will run it, or if for example you got your last start from your battery, your alternator will keep it on until your next startup it won't if your battery is bad. you just have to understand what i wrote sometimes i suck at making sense 
This post has been edited by trdproven: Oct 14, 2011 - 5:55 PM -------------------- 94 Celica GT
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Oct 14, 2011 - 10:16 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
disconnecting the battery while the car is running is bad for the car, don't do it.
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Oct 15, 2011 - 10:16 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 7, '11 From Hampton,Va Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Thank you all For your help I will try some of your suggestions and hopefully it will work
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Oct 15, 2011 - 11:12 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jul 24, '08 From Canoga Park CA. Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE (MrD @ Oct 15, 2011 - 10:16 AM) Thank you all For your help I will try some of your suggestions and hopefully it will work I say change cables(both) then go to autozone and let them chaeck the bat/alt. I wouldn't do the ol disconnect battery test. Your battery could be broke inside I have heard of that from it sliding around or from tighten the bolt on top too tight and crack the terminal but that would be rare. |
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