car stall/erratic idle |
car stall/erratic idle |
Jun 5, 2010 - 11:17 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 28, '10 From Columbia, South Carolina Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
So when I first bought this car, it had a really bad erratic idle, that would drop down to 0 and bounce right back up in a matter of a second, and keep doing this. It would flicker, and then stall. It's not fuel related. It'll actually stall when I'm driving and then not start back up. I replaced the ignition coil and all was fine. Now, three months later, it's doing this again >:( What do you guys think? It's throwing a 12, 13, and 41 codes. Could these all be related to the 41 (TPS?)
-------------------- 1994 Celica GT, coupe, 5 speed. Front strut brace, cherrybomb glasspack, intake. |
Jun 5, 2010 - 11:35 AM |
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Moderator Joined Oct 1, '02 From fall river, ma Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
distributor.
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Jun 5, 2010 - 11:46 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 28, '10 From Columbia, South Carolina Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Do you think so? I figured 12 and 13 were leaning towards that, and 41 is obvious, so dizzy and tps?
-------------------- 1994 Celica GT, coupe, 5 speed. Front strut brace, cherrybomb glasspack, intake. |
Jun 6, 2010 - 10:03 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 6, '04 From Charlotte, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
Ok, so normally when I start my car it revs to ~ 1500 rpm and then drops to normal idle of about 750 on the first turn. Starting last week though it's been starting weakly at about 750. I had the fuel filter, cap, and rotor replaced yesterday but when I tried starting the car this morning it turned but didn't catch...just died. Upon turning the key and pressing the gas it fired right up like normal.
So my question is...do I need to replace the distributor? -------------------- Has no more Celicas
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Jun 6, 2010 - 10:08 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 28, '10 From Columbia, South Carolina Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
pull a spark plug, attached to a wire, ground it on the valve cover, disconnect the igniter, have a friend crank the engine, and check for spark. Blue= good spark, yellow= not so good, none= broken.
-------------------- 1994 Celica GT, coupe, 5 speed. Front strut brace, cherrybomb glasspack, intake. |
Jun 6, 2010 - 4:17 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
u wont get a spark with the ignitor unplugged
-------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
Jun 6, 2010 - 8:45 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 28, '10 From Columbia, South Carolina Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
oops, didn't mean to put that, was thinking about something else. Leave igniter connected. just bump it though, don't start it
-------------------- 1994 Celica GT, coupe, 5 speed. Front strut brace, cherrybomb glasspack, intake. |
Jun 7, 2010 - 9:21 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
clean your throttle body throughly with TB or CARB cleaner, and try again
Ok, so normally when I start my car it revs to ~ 1500 rpm and then drops to normal idle of about 750 on the first turn. Starting last week though it's been starting weakly at about 750. I had the fuel filter, cap, and rotor replaced yesterday but when I tried starting the car this morning it turned but didn't catch...just died. Upon turning the key and pressing the gas it fired right up like normal. So my question is...do I need to replace the distributor? pull your EFI fuse for ~ 10 min, if that doesn't correct your problem, replace the dizzy && adjust your TPS. So when I first bought this car, it had a really bad erratic idle, that would drop down to 0 and bounce right back up in a matter of a second, and keep doing this. It would flicker, and then stall. It's not fuel related. It'll actually stall when I'm driving and then not start back up. I replaced the ignition coil and all was fine. Now, three months later, it's doing this again >:( What do you guys think? It's throwing a 12, 13, and 41 codes. Could these all be related to the 41 (TPS?)
-------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
Jun 7, 2010 - 12:01 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 6, '04 From Charlotte, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
clean your throttle body throughly with TB or CARB cleaner, and try again Ok, so normally when I start my car it revs to ~ 1500 rpm and then drops to normal idle of about 750 on the first turn. Starting last week though it's been starting weakly at about 750. I had the fuel filter, cap, and rotor replaced yesterday but when I tried starting the car this morning it turned but didn't catch...just died. Upon turning the key and pressing the gas it fired right up like normal. So my question is...do I need to replace the distributor? pull your EFI fuse for ~ 10 min, if that doesn't correct your problem, replace the dizzy && adjust your TPS. So when I first bought this car, it had a really bad erratic idle, that would drop down to 0 and bounce right back up in a matter of a second, and keep doing this. It would flicker, and then stall. It's not fuel related. It'll actually stall when I'm driving and then not start back up. I replaced the ignition coil and all was fine. Now, three months later, it's doing this again >:( What do you guys think? It's throwing a 12, 13, and 41 codes. Could these all be related to the 41 (TPS?) Stephen, I'm guessing the line above my post is directed to me; the throttle body was cleaned last year...should I still do it again? -------------------- Has no more Celicas
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Jun 7, 2010 - 1:25 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
keiri, yes the line above it directed at you.
clean the TB, make sure your vac lines are still ok. are you having any drivability problems? -------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
Jun 7, 2010 - 2:35 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 6, '04 From Charlotte, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
keiri, yes the line above it directed at you. clean the TB, make sure your vac lines are still ok. are you having any drivability problems? No drivability problems; once she starts she's fine. The first 5 minutes or so of driving the car is at a higher RPM until it warms up and then it drives like it's been driven all day. The only problem I found on the vac lines was the little connector at the rear of the stock intake has a couple really small hairline cracks at the top of the tube radiating out from the middle. -------------------- Has no more Celicas
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Jul 3, 2010 - 2:42 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 28, '10 From Columbia, South Carolina Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Reviving an old thread- my car's still doing this. I replaced the ignition coil now. It's no longer throwing the 41 code, but in place of that it's throwing a 14. It's all ignition system now. I have 5 different igniters and they all do the same thing, so I'm thinking it's not that.
-------------------- 1994 Celica GT, coupe, 5 speed. Front strut brace, cherrybomb glasspack, intake. |
Jul 3, 2010 - 5:16 PM |
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Moderator Joined Oct 1, '02 From fall river, ma Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
its the distributor, like i said in the first reply after your first post.
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Jul 3, 2010 - 5:46 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 28, '10 From Columbia, South Carolina Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Now, to be sure, and I'm not doubting you in the least; just giving you more details. This is an intermittent problem, sometimes it'll drive for a week and be fine, and then the next day it won't start, or it will start and the rpm's will be incredibly unstable. I probably should have told you this in the first place. Is it still the distributor?
-------------------- 1994 Celica GT, coupe, 5 speed. Front strut brace, cherrybomb glasspack, intake. |
Jul 3, 2010 - 5:48 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 28, '09 From York pa Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
Now, to be sure, and I'm not doubting you in the least; just giving you more details. This is an intermittent problem, sometimes it'll drive for a week and be fine, and then the next day it won't start, or it will start and the rpm's will be incredibly unstable. I probably should have told you this in the first place. Is it still the distributor? yeah same happened to me it was overheating till i replaced it and all was good again |
Jul 3, 2010 - 5:51 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 28, '10 From Columbia, South Carolina Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
I really hope this is the problem.... will one off a camry 5s work?
-------------------- 1994 Celica GT, coupe, 5 speed. Front strut brace, cherrybomb glasspack, intake. |
Jul 3, 2010 - 5:52 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 28, '09 From York pa Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
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Jul 3, 2010 - 6:15 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 28, '10 From Columbia, South Carolina Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Cool, I'll let you guys know how this works out on monday
-------------------- 1994 Celica GT, coupe, 5 speed. Front strut brace, cherrybomb glasspack, intake. |
Jul 21, 2010 - 3:33 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 28, '10 From Columbia, South Carolina Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Bought a distributor from checkers auto in oklahoma... It said MR2 distributor, non turbo, so I got it shipped to me. Not only was it not for an mr2, it was from a 6 cyl Mazda "mr3" I'm pretty sure mazda doesn't make a 6 cylinder "mr3"
-------------------- 1994 Celica GT, coupe, 5 speed. Front strut brace, cherrybomb glasspack, intake. |
Jul 21, 2010 - 3:42 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 28, '09 From York pa Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
Bought a distributor from checkers auto in oklahoma... It said MR2 distributor, non turbo, so I got it shipped to me. Not only was it not for an mr2, it was from a 6 cyl Mazda "mr3" I'm pretty sure mazda doesn't make a 6 cylinder "mr3" ? ouch hope u getting ur money back |
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