Broken Clutch Disc - 3rd gen 3sgte, car won't shift into gear Options

[jcbass7]

I'm making this its own thread for search purposes, just another story of a clutch disc losing a spring on a 3SGTE swap with the S54 tranny.

The swap had 30k on it, I am unsure if the clutch was new when it was swapped or if it was used, but I'm assuming it was new. So 30k and dead...

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If you look up the name ASCO it directs you to Aisin which is the OEM manufacturer for Toyota Clutches. This tells me that a quality, performance clutch is necessary for a 3SGTE swapped with an s54. I know most people already know that, but I just wanted to add another story and some more proof to the argument.

This post has been edited by jcbass7: Apr 28, 2012 - 5:23 PM

[presure2]

ohhh crap...thats bad news.
that looks like a competion clutch disk, same hub as mine.
ughh.
did it damage the flywheel, jesse?
ive seen it on quite a few diffrent brands, all off which have that same exact design for the spring retainers that break off and allow the spring to pop out.
ACT, Spec, comp, all with the same result.

i've switched over to recommending and installing clutchmasters setups with a unsprung disk.
after installing a couple of them, ill never buy anything but a clutchmasters unsprung, you'd be amazed at the pedal feel and engagement of that clutch setup, jesse.
pedal feel is definetly lighter than the comp, or act that i've had in the car before, and engagement is WAY better than the comp, and in fact almost as slippable as the act street disk i had before.

[jcbass7]

The flywheel looks ok, a few scorch marks from a hard launch, but should be fine. I might resurface it or put in a lightweight flywheel while its out.

Manny, any more info on that set-up? I'll take your word for that one and get the unsprung disk, I've seen enough pictures of springs breaking.

Its still the 3S pressure plate, with the 5S spline count correct? Its been a while since I ordered a clutch kit for the S54 - 3SGTE combo.

[Stambo]

same thing happened to my comp clutch after maybe 6k miles... A 2nd spring was half way out also.

[mkernz22]

Same thing happened to my F1 Racing Clutch that was on my 5s. It was only in for 1,500 miles too. The way those are designed is really sh!tty. Went with OEM after that happened and its been fine for the past year now.

[BonzaiCelica]

hmm similar to what happend to another guy here in so cal.

Is that a 3SGE disk with a 5sfe spline??

Hey manny I know as you mentioned before in another thread that we can use an upgrade stage 2 5sfe clutch disk on a 3sge beams motor. What is the diameter of a 5sfe vs a 3sge disk????

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Apr 30, 2012 - 4:58 PM

[presure2]

Jesse, the setup is a clutchmasters stage 4 unsprung.

i dont remember ever commenting on a 3sge clutch...is it the same as a 3sgte swap setup?

[BonzaiCelica]

Jesse, the setup is a clutchmasters stage 4 unsprung.

i dont remember ever commenting on a 3sge clutch...is it the same as a 3sgte swap setup?

I can't seem to find that thread now.

yes a 3sgte/3sge beams to a s54 transmission. But anyhow I already know what clutch combo I need

Hey guys have you talked to spec about the springs breaking off the discs??? don't know how many cases this has happened with spec clutches. It happened to a 6gc member with a near stock 3rd gen 3sgte on a stage 1 hybrid spec clutch setup...

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: May 1, 2012 - 6:16 PM