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> drifting st205, how'd he just get rwd?
post Nov 8, 2011 - 11:22 AM
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i know this video is old, and its a noob question, but how'd he get the car to be only rwd? i was told you cant adjust the front/rear bias, and its very difficult to make it only rwd... never been clear on how people did it...





http://youtu.be/Q5rl__dhDoY


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post Nov 8, 2011 - 11:58 AM
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At the end of every shot, it looks like it's going to smash into that track/pit divider.


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post Nov 8, 2011 - 12:23 PM
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you think thats bad? look at my friend recking at thompson GA clear to drift! (youtube clear 2 drift 2.0)







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post Nov 8, 2011 - 1:20 PM
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2-sway LSD in the rear, and I'd be pretty sure that car is still AWD
post Nov 8, 2011 - 2:20 PM
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QUOTE (playr158 @ Nov 8, 2011 - 1:20 PM) *
2-sway LSD in the rear, and I'd be pretty sure that car is still AWD


ok gotcha! just more power going to the back


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post Nov 8, 2011 - 4:31 PM
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Removal of the center differential will make it RWD. Take out the center differential, front axles, and put blanks into the axle holes in the transmission.


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post Nov 8, 2011 - 5:53 PM
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he cant drift worth ****


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post Nov 8, 2011 - 7:45 PM
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^ I think that's because it is still AWD. It looks like he chucks it in hard with the handbrake in the first shot, but notice how the rear never seems to truly slide out.


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post Nov 8, 2011 - 11:14 PM
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hes trying to drift like a rally car lol...asphault doesnt give...there's a reason why people remove the AWD on evo's and skylines to drift...


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post Nov 10, 2011 - 11:04 PM
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so why cant we use the e154f and just cap the rear diff, and only use the FWD in our swaps.


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post Nov 10, 2011 - 11:19 PM
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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Nov 10, 2011 - 10:04 PM) *
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so why cant we use the e154f and just cap the rear diff, and only use the FWD in our swaps.

we can. remove center diff, add fwd diff, add block off plate. BAM! FWD box.


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post Nov 11, 2011 - 8:48 AM
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expensive fwd box.


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post Nov 11, 2011 - 10:04 AM
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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Nov 11, 2011 - 12:04 AM) *
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so why cant we use the e154f and just cap the rear diff, and only use the FWD in our swaps.


the easy way will have 50% of the power on teh front tires, and the diff will eventually burn due to friction.


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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Nov 10, 2011 - 10:04 PM) *
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so why cant we use the e154f and just cap the rear diff, and only use the FWD in our swaps.

we can. remove center diff, add fwd diff, add block off plate. BAM! FWD box.



this is the proper way of doing it.

and to be clear, removing the front axles to make the car RWD will have the same effect, only 50% of the power will make it to the wheels and the diff will eventually burn due to friction, the diff is designed to split the power 50 / 50 front and rear, then the rear is LSD ( OEM on the ST305 ) the front is open diff, that's how he manage to do a little drifting, if he had tires better suited for this,. it would look almost as good as any RWD car ( with a proper driver ) but he's using tires that have too much traction.


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post Nov 11, 2011 - 12:24 PM
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why not just racing slicks in the back and ****ty bald tires upfront


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QUOTE (Neon90424 @ Nov 11, 2011 - 7:48 AM) *
expensive fwd box.


Not if you already had it in your clip, and find a busted/junkyard mr2 box. its essentially an e153 with gears mated to the 3sgte/celica.

3 options if you want a e series trans when you get the e154f with a clip

1. Buy a FWD e series (e153, e53, etc)
2. Buy & convert an MR2T tranny to FWD (using brackets and such from the e154f)
3. Convert the e154f to FWD. (using the MR2 diff, block off plate)


options 2&3 will require just about the same cost, option 3 requires a lot more effort as you will have to actually split the tranny open, but if you find an LSD(thats not already installed in a suitable trans), why not?

It all depends on what YOU want to do, your skill/tool set, and what is available to you.


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QUOTE (Neon90424 @ Nov 11, 2011 - 11:24 AM) *
why not just racing slicks in the back and ****ty bald tires upfront


that would cause understeer BAD. WAYYY more traction in the rear, than up front.

you'd want normal street tires in the rear, super sticky tires up front. which might not even work dependin on how the center diff reacts to big differences in speed between the front and rear(IIRC its open, so it will send all the power to the spinning sets...)


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QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Nov 11, 2011 - 7:48 PM) *
QUOTE (Neon90424 @ Nov 11, 2011 - 11:24 AM) *
why not just racing slicks in the back and ****ty bald tires upfront


that would cause understeer BAD. WAYYY more traction in the rear, than up front.

you'd want normal street tires in the rear, super sticky tires up front. which might not even work dependin on how the center diff reacts to big differences in speed between the front and rear(IIRC its open, so it will send all the power to the spinning sets...)


I'd run with this tire setup and an aftermarket rear diff and stiffer sway/strut bar.....you'd be surprised at how the loose the rear end with get with that setup!


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post Nov 13, 2011 - 6:57 PM
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QUOTE (3WayStunna @ Nov 13, 2011 - 5:15 PM) *
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QUOTE (Neon90424 @ Nov 11, 2011 - 11:24 AM) *
why not just racing slicks in the back and ****ty bald tires upfront


that would cause understeer BAD. WAYYY more traction in the rear, than up front.

you'd want normal street tires in the rear, super sticky tires up front. which might not even work dependin on how the center diff reacts to big differences in speed between the front and rear(IIRC its open, so it will send all the power to the spinning sets...)


I'd run with this tire setup and an aftermarket rear diff and stiffer sway/strut bar.....you'd be surprised at how the loose the rear end with get with that setup!


Which setup? Neons or mine?


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I got mine mixed up


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post Nov 13, 2011 - 10:59 PM
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QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Nov 13, 2011 - 7:57 PM) *
QUOTE (3WayStunna @ Nov 13, 2011 - 5:15 PM) *
QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Nov 11, 2011 - 7:48 PM) *
QUOTE (Neon90424 @ Nov 11, 2011 - 11:24 AM) *
why not just racing slicks in the back and ****ty bald tires upfront


that would cause understeer BAD. WAYYY more traction in the rear, than up front.

you'd want normal street tires in the rear, super sticky tires up front. which might not even work dependin on how the center diff reacts to big differences in speed between the front and rear(IIRC its open, so it will send all the power to the spinning sets...)


I'd run with this tire setup and an aftermarket rear diff and stiffer sway/strut bar.....you'd be surprised at how the loose the rear end with get with that setup!


Which setup? Neons or mine?


Sorry i would run yours stephen....more grip up front and less in the rear is a smart way to break the tail end loose from what i noticed...


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