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> Hey guys! new to the forum, but not to the car, Found the after market finally for my Celica GT!
post Dec 19, 2011 - 12:03 AM
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so as it says, I found this forum almost by mistake but found a thread with a black Celica that had been turbo'd and im back in the Celica groove. Im not thinking of really boosting the car... yet wink.gif but I do what better exhaust and intake. im gonna attempt to go with that 90-93 accord CAI kit idea and get custom exhaust.
First thing I wanted to know is whos tuning Celicas in minnesota, cuz I would love to meet you guys. and also with my exhaust, I still need to find a fab shop to do my exhaust but I was think of doing a full custom exhaust (header to muffler) and wanted to know how much that might run and if anyone has done it with there 5S-FE? I have alot more things Id like to figure out (getting JDM tails, suspension, rims, etc.) but I wanna get this figured and get some rough numbers before anything else, because I hate that butt ugly stock exhaust manifold. Thank you
post Dec 19, 2011 - 12:07 AM
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only header we have is an ebay header or the JDM Jasma (i believe that's the name). Other than that, you'd have to get one custom fabbed. I had my exhaust put on by a place called Lou's Custom Exhaust. They took everything off, put my header and flex section on, and custom fabbed from the cat back (but i have no cat) and it was about $550 with a flowmaster 40 series and a tip on it. Sounds very low toned for a 4 banger haha
post Dec 19, 2011 - 1:32 AM
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Any header for a 3S-GE or 5S-FE will fit. You may have to custom fab a down pipe, but you are planning that anyway. Tannabe made the Medalion G-Power headers for a while and they're rare, but you can find eBay remakes for decently cheap. JASMA isn't a brand, it's the "Japanese Automotive Sport Muffler Association." Anything that's JASMA certified is worth money and good.


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post Dec 19, 2011 - 9:53 AM
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thank you for saying HEADER!!!!!! you can get the Ebay header and then have a fab shop build you a custom exhaust all the way back. but if you are not boosting then just get the header and have an axle back installed. you dont need anything larger.


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post Dec 19, 2011 - 11:48 AM
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QUOTE (Smaay @ Dec 19, 2011 - 9:53 AM) *
thank you for saying HEADER!!!!!!


you're welcome? lol laugh.gif
i always call it a header
post Dec 19, 2011 - 1:33 PM
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QUOTE (mkernz22 @ Dec 19, 2011 - 10:48 AM) *
QUOTE (Smaay @ Dec 19, 2011 - 9:53 AM) *
thank you for saying HEADER!!!!!!


you're welcome? lol laugh.gif
i always call it a header


lots of people say headerS here even though its only one... since we only have one head... well most of us wink.gif


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post Dec 19, 2011 - 1:52 PM
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I have two wink.gif lol

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post Dec 19, 2011 - 1:55 PM
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well....idk how exactly to take that. lol you have two heads,,,, in your engine bay.. or... two heads total, but not in the same bay.. or... anatomically kindasad.gif

but i def have two heads in my engine bay wink.gif


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post Dec 19, 2011 - 5:53 PM
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Giggity.

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post Dec 19, 2011 - 6:17 PM
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Thank you guys so much for the responces! I didnt know people would respond to this so quick, took me by surprise! So just to clear things up:

QUOTE (RabidTRD @ Dec 19, 2011 - 2:32 AM) *
Any header for a 3S-GE or 5S-FE will fit. You may have to custom fab a down pipe, but you are planning that anyway. Tannabe made the Medalion G-Power headers for a while and they're rare, but you can find eBay remakes for decently cheap. JASMA isn't a brand, it's the "Japanese Automotive Sport Muffler Association." Anything that's JASMA certified is worth money and good.


I ran through this idea too, but someone on another forum said it doesnt help much performance wise, as he said: 'Youre replacing a stock header with a stock header'.
And since our oil filters for the 2.2's are right up front, would it hinder the ability to get at the filter? and where do you find JASMA certified goodies? do they have a site you can look thru?

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QUOTE (Smaay @ Dec 19, 2011 - 9:53 AM) *
thank you for saying HEADER!!!!!!


you're welcome? lol laugh.gif
i always call it a header


lots of people say headerS here even though its only one... since we only have one head... well most of us wink.gif


Hey, if you really wanted to, you probably could get 2 and have dual exhaust. That would be a pretty interesting idea. And talking about headers just went some crazy direction Ive never seen

QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Dec 19, 2011 - 2:55 PM) *
well....idk how exactly to take that. lol you have two heads,,,, in your engine bay.. or... two heads total, but not in the same bay.. or... anatomically kindasad.gif

but i def have two heads in my engine bay wink.gif


like I said, s*** just flew out the window.

And this is something else ive wondered for a while. Why is the aftermarket so hard to find for these cars? it took me about a year to find this forum, but it has eveything! and it got me so stoked for my build. smile.gif

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post Dec 19, 2011 - 7:19 PM
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Here are some images of one:




This is the one I bought. This one will actually do something, unlike the ebay ones that are the exact same as the OEM ones, just minus the cat and stainless steel.

There are some others that go 4-2-1 that are even better... but they're hard to find. They allow for the filter to be removed still as you can see in the first pic.

These would be a fun pick up, but I'm not sure they'll fit:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/250872112772?ssPag...#ht_2594wt_1396

It will bolt to the block, but I don't know if it'll clear the alt, and if you've got room to get the oil filter out.

This post has been edited by RabidTRD: Dec 19, 2011 - 7:21 PM


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post Dec 19, 2011 - 8:45 PM
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QUOTE (RabidTRD @ Dec 19, 2011 - 7:19 PM) *
Here are some images of one:




This is the one I bought. This one will actually do something, unlike the ebay ones that are the exact same as the OEM ones, just minus the cat and stainless steel.

There are some others that go 4-2-1 that are even better... but they're hard to find. They allow for the filter to be removed still as you can see in the first pic.

These would be a fun pick up, but I'm not sure they'll fit:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/250872112772?ssPag...#ht_2594wt_1396

It will bolt to the block, but I don't know if it'll clear the alt, and if you've got room to get the oil filter out.


Is that header off of a camry? it sure as hell looks like one
post Dec 20, 2011 - 2:35 PM
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a camry and a celica GT has the same motor only different tranny setups. they both come with a 5sfe engine which is why it looks so similar.


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post Dec 20, 2011 - 5:30 PM
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QUOTE (Ted95 @ Dec 20, 2011 - 3:35 PM) *
a camry and a celica GT has the same motor only different tranny setups. they both come with a 5sfe engine which is why it looks so similar.


So does it allow exhaust to flow better and increase perofrmance or is the manifold the exact same thing as the one I have now?
post Dec 20, 2011 - 5:40 PM
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The header will flow better. I've heard mixed opinions on them. Some people say they make a difference on the butt dyno, others say they just make a better noise. At any rate, it can't flow much worse than the OEM exhaust manifold.


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post Dec 20, 2011 - 6:35 PM
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QUOTE (richee3 @ Dec 20, 2011 - 5:40 PM) *
The header will flow better. I've heard mixed opinions on them. Some people say they make a difference on the butt dyno, others say they just make a better noise. At any rate, it can't flow much worse than the OEM exhaust manifold.


So what aftermarket hearders do you recommend? I saw KOSpeed header for a decent amout of money but I dont know whick brands to steer clear of except pacesetters. and what kind of difference do they make? 5-10HP or would it be less since its just a header?

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post Dec 20, 2011 - 9:13 PM
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QUOTE (UndecidedPC9397 @ Dec 20, 2011 - 6:35 PM) *
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The header will flow better. I've heard mixed opinions on them. Some people say they make a difference on the butt dyno, others say they just make a better noise. At any rate, it can't flow much worse than the OEM exhaust manifold.


So what aftermarket hearders do you recommend? I saw KOSpeed header for a decent amout of money but I dont know whick brands to steer clear of except pacesetters. and what kind of difference do they make? 5-10HP or would it be less since its just a header?


it's a *header. just one. and you can just get an ebay brand, slap it on, and call it a day. you might get 5-10hp, not sure. I dyno'd my car and it was 107hp and 123ft-lbs, and that's after 229k bahaha
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QUOTE (mkernz22 @ Dec 20, 2011 - 10:13 PM) *
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The header will flow better. I've heard mixed opinions on them. Some people say they make a difference on the butt dyno, others say they just make a better noise. At any rate, it can't flow much worse than the OEM exhaust manifold.


So what aftermarket hearders do you recommend? I saw KOSpeed header for a decent amout of money but I dont know whick brands to steer clear of except pacesetters. and what kind of difference do they make? 5-10HP or would it be less since its just a header?


it's a *header. just one. and you can just get an ebay brand, slap it on, and call it a day. you might get 5-10hp, not sure. I dyno'd my car and it was 107hp and 123ft-lbs, and that's after 229k bahaha


Yeah i know, im referring to more than one, since theres more than one header on the market. sorry for any confusion, im not THAT much of a noob lol and do you have ST model? cuz if I read correctly, GT's come stock with 135hp
post Dec 20, 2011 - 11:18 PM
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that's to the wheels haha not the crank wink.gif
post Dec 20, 2011 - 11:29 PM
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theres usually about a 15-20ish hp difference between hp from the crank to the wheels.

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