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 Dec 25, 2003 - 3:11 AM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Nov 26, '03 From McKenzie, TN Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
I looked up the stats for an NA celi:
Toyota 1.8 ST 114BHP Top Speed of 124 0-60 in 10 Toyota 2.0 GT 173BHP Top Speed of 139 0-60 in 7.9 Not to say that these couldnt be surpassed going downhill or w/ small performance mods, but unless you have turbo i doubt youre gonna be goin much faster than this. |
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Dec 25, 2003 - 3:13 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
you got the stats for the wrong GT the usdm gt's only have 135hp and a 2.2l engine -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Dec 25, 2003 - 11:59 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 26, '03 From McKenzie, TN Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i thought something wasnt right about the gt stats, but i dont drive one so i wasnt sure about it.
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Dec 25, 2003 - 3:29 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 22, '02 From Detroit Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
If you want I can do it again and have it taped(may have more trouble now because of the extra 100k on the engine). And as for where, it was on I-70 between St Louis and Kansas City. |
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Dec 25, 2003 - 6:18 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From tacoma WA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
no way in hell can an ST dream to see 130. 120 is kinda pushing it for ST's.
back in the old days with my GT i did 123mph. i tried not to long ago and did 143mph with a pasenger and a few hundred rpm left. the car was still accelarting but i didnt have the guts. |
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Dec 25, 2003 - 6:43 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 20, '03 From Derry, NH Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
when i pushed my 94 gt i hit alittle over 130 mph with some room to go
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Dec 25, 2003 - 7:04 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From San Juan, PR Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
I really believe that an ST doesn't have enough engine to push those 2,500+ pounds all the way up to 120 mph...it may get there but it's after minutes. My ST climbed to 80 in a heartbeat and from there took an eternity to get to 90 and to 100 it was painfully slow...took probably more than a minute. After turbocharging it, at only 3 PSI with a blown turbo the car rocketed to 120 so fast I got nervous, haha...and it also torque steered to the left.
-------------------- Past - 7A-FTE: Will never forget you
Present - 3rd Gen 3S-GTE: Swap in progress QUOTE (SinisterSinner @ Dec 19, 2009 - 10:52 AM)  I dont want to even think of turbos, they blow up way too often... |
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Dec 25, 2003 - 7:42 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 22, '02 From Detroit Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Don't know where you're getting the 2500 pound figure. It's more like 2300. But either way, even my old 85 GTS could get up over 100 like it was nothing(22RE put out the same 115 hp as the 7AFE, with a tad more torque, and to the rear wheels). Sure it's forever compared to something like an RX-7 or Supra, but it will get there.
We've had this discussion on this board as well as on Celica.net many times. The ST gears(manual trans) top out at 138. So believe what you want, but I've been there and know better. |
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Dec 25, 2003 - 8:26 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From San Juan, PR Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
Last time I checked on the web, I think it was a car reviews website, the ST weighed 6,4xx pounds...maybe some more for the automatic. I've never weighed it but from my understanding, my car is now heavier with the turbo stuff...not by much, but heavier. Also, I have 17" wheels...they're less than 18 pounds each but obviously we gotta count the tire weight...hmm..are the stock plain black wheels heavier or lighter thank the Enkeis? That's where I got the 2,500+...just a raw guesstimate. Hell, if I'm lighter than 2,500 that's awesome...more power to weight ratio than a Spec V or a Lancer Ralliart...both heavier than 2,600 pounds STOCK 
-------------------- Past - 7A-FTE: Will never forget you
Present - 3rd Gen 3S-GTE: Swap in progress QUOTE (SinisterSinner @ Dec 19, 2009 - 10:52 AM) I dont want to even think of turbos, they blow up way too often... |
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Dec 26, 2003 - 1:58 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
yea my car torque steers left every time i shift into a higer gear while under boost.
i think im gonna try removing my st's limiter and see what it can do. im sure it will still be accelerating even at 130mph -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
@gt4.wrc on Instagram |
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Dec 26, 2003 - 2:51 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From San Juan, PR Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
Can we bypass the limiter also? I thought you could only mess with the manual tranny STs. I need to know how because I'll need to do a max speed run so I can street set the S-AFC before going to the dyno 
-------------------- Past - 7A-FTE: Will never forget you
Present - 3rd Gen 3S-GTE: Swap in progress QUOTE (SinisterSinner @ Dec 19, 2009 - 10:52 AM) I dont want to even think of turbos, they blow up way too often... |
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Dec 26, 2003 - 3:00 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
im gonna put the wire on a switch and see what happens when the wire is "cut" with an auto tranny. i should do that in the next few days. -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
@gt4.wrc on Instagram |
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Dec 26, 2003 - 3:03 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From San Juan, PR Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
Somebody said that it can cause damage to the tranny
-------------------- Past - 7A-FTE: Will never forget you
Present - 3rd Gen 3S-GTE: Swap in progress QUOTE (SinisterSinner @ Dec 19, 2009 - 10:52 AM) I dont want to even think of turbos, they blow up way too often... |
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Dec 26, 2003 - 3:29 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
that was me, lol. toyota auto trannies are all controlled by the ecu based on speed and throttle position, and um, the ecu not knowing the speed might cause a problem. im gonna be careful with it and see exactly what happens when i switch it off. -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
@gt4.wrc on Instagram |
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Dec 27, 2003 - 5:00 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 29, '03 From North Yorkshire, UK Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Speeds for my standard (apart from the Magic Tree!!) 94 UK GT.
3rd gear 100mph  4th gear 120mph 5th gear 145mph It's got 85k (ish) on the clock and runs like a dream. If anybody would like proof of this let me know and I'll go up the road with the camcorder and get back to you. To find out how fast your car goes, choose a nice quite road with good visibilty and stamp on the loud pedal, it's a Celica, the cunning Japs put a rev limiter to let you know when your going fast enough Crelica |
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Dec 27, 2003 - 12:03 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 18, '03 From Peer, Belgium (Europe) Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
My '95 ST tops out at 130mph (210km/h); but it really isnt comfy driving at that speed, engine is at 6300rpms then.
(tested it in Germany, no limits on highways there) as for performance mod, the only thing changed is the cat has been taken out. |
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Dec 27, 2003 - 2:02 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 31, '02 From Boise, ID Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
How did you get around the limiter? Mine's a 94 GT and the limiter kicked in at 125. I was only at 5,500 RPM, but te fuel just cut at 125 pmh. How'd ya do it? --------------------  psalm 69 |
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Dec 27, 2003 - 2:13 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 31, '02 From Boise, ID Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
I know the GT manual stock is 2580, and the ST is lighter. -------------------- psalm 69 |
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Dec 29, 2003 - 11:37 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 22, '02 From Detroit Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
For all the weight related info, just look in the door. You will find curb weight, original tire size, transmission code, paint code... According to Henry's site(henryvo.com), the ST Liftback weighs 2415(man)/2495(auto). The ST Coupe is the lightest at 2395(man).
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Dec 31, 2003 - 2:02 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 12, '03 From h town Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
damn i have a 95 st and with 182,xxx miles on it im scared to go over 100 cause my car begins to shake so i dunt try pushing it past 100mph but i would like to try! o yeah at 4,000 rpm i only hit 80mph is that strange?
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