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 Dec 16, 2003 - 11:48 AM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Sep 28, '03 From Brighton, MI Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
I have been trying to think of a way to enable my Fog Lights to turn on ithout having my headlights on. I wonder if anyone can help me with this. Hopefully I don't have to go through a lot of funky rewiring with extra switches n stuff. I would just like to be able to hit the fog light switch without the headlights. Any help would be GREATLY apprieciated! THNX
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Dec 16, 2003 - 12:08 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 14, '03 From Knoxville, TN Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
yes pull their power source from the the parking lights and not the headlights.  I make it seem so easy dont I? Thats what i did on my tacoma anyway. I dont know about the celicas
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Dec 16, 2003 - 1:07 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Yeah what he said, or even run ur own power from the batery...then you can turn them on by themselves.
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Dec 16, 2003 - 5:09 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 28, '03 From Brighton, MI Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
OK, sounds easy enough. Now, got a really dumb question. (god i'm such a NOOB at this)....Where exactly is the power source for the fog lights?
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Dec 16, 2003 - 6:35 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 31, '02 From Boise, ID Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
I'm pretty sure that the power to the foglights comes from the battery and ties in after the headlight relay. If I don't know where this is physically, but an easy, down and dirty fix, is to just splice form some always hot lead (from the battery) to the foglight wires. Make sure to throw a fuse in if you do that. I've got my manual at home (finals ends on friday though) so if you still need help, I can scan in a few of the pages with the wiring diagrams and stuff. send me an email or PM on saturday to remind me if you need it.
A word of caution: Having them turn off with the headlights is a really good feature. Without that feautre, sometime you might be just driving around with them on onstead of the headlights blah blah blah. Anyways. I spent a ton of time, when I put mine in (had to do all custom work, they weren't exactly made for a celi) and i put extra time into making sure they were tied into the headlight relay. Its your call. let me know if you need the pages! --------------------  psalm 69 |
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Dec 16, 2003 - 10:36 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 29, '02 From Sterling Heights, Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Hey Scooby...I'm interested in the pages too. I haven't installed my factory fogs in yet and I'm a tad interested in seeing the diagrams to help me in intalling mine. |
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Dec 17, 2003 - 3:41 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 31, '02 From Boise, ID Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
I'll post them on the web when I go home. I'll post to the group to let you guys know too.
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Dec 17, 2003 - 5:25 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 28, '03 From Brighton, MI Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
That would be great. thanx again!
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Dec 19, 2003 - 7:42 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 29, '02 From Sterling Heights, Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Ditto! Thanks a lot Scooby!
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Dec 19, 2003 - 12:43 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 20, '03 From Annapolis, Md Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
ok, if you guy's have to ask these questions, maybe you should'nt be messing with any wireing in your car...just a thought. I mean its not hard, but if you dont know, dont touch
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Dec 19, 2003 - 12:48 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 29, '02 From Sterling Heights, Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
You know there's nothing wrong with wanting to do it properly. Have some resource to abide by. Some are trying to learn, some may just have the knack at knowing what to do on a car just by looking at it and some may not. So there's nothing wrong with asking. This is a car forum right? |
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Dec 19, 2003 - 2:53 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '03 From Vancouver, Canada! Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
exactly, gotta start somewhere
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Dec 19, 2003 - 5:52 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 28, '03 From Brighton, MI Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
thanx for the support CelicaQT. I actually know quite a bit about electronics & wiring....just haven't messed w/ my car yet, and just want to make sure its done right!
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Dec 19, 2003 - 9:41 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 29, '02 From Sterling Heights, Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Well same here Uriel. I'd rather do it the proper way and not have to second guess things as you take apart things/install things. But ya know sometimes someones gotta say something. Hope I didn't come off to strong Digndoug. 
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Dec 27, 2003 - 10:31 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 2, '03 From Anchorage, AK Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
ummmm.....is it just me or am i the only one here that has a factory turn switch on the lever where the head lights turn on
 ? When one of my fog lights broke, I didnt want to drive around with just one of them on so i turn that little thing and the went off. I try and take a pic when i get home.
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Dec 27, 2003 - 2:05 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 28, '03 From Brighton, MI Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yes, i have that same thing. But i want to be able to turn them on with having to turn on my headlights as i stated before. -------------------- |
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Dec 27, 2003 - 4:41 PM
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 Administrator Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
Do you want them to turn on with the parking lights(Which I highly recommend...then they still turn off with the auto-off feature) or do you want to be able to turn them on without the parking lights on? Either way, I can give you directions. You'll need a SPDT automotive relay, which you can find at your local auto parts store, some wire, a soldering iron and solder(I highly recommend not using crimp connectors under the hood, as water can easily get into them.) Just let me know, and I'll do my best to help.
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Dec 28, 2003 - 11:58 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 28, '03 From Brighton, MI Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I would like to be able to turn them on without the parking lights! That would be great if you could help....
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Dec 28, 2003 - 2:15 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 31, '03 From Bowling Green, KY Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
with my fog lights, i have a switch in my dash console. i wired the foglights to the ignition 1 wire so i can turn them on or off without the lights on and if the switch is on, thye will automatically turn off when you take the key out. i always ran down the battery bc i forgot the fogs were on, so if you connect your lights to a always hot with a switch, you might drain down your battery on accident
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Dec 28, 2003 - 4:33 PM
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Administrator Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
What you want to do then is find the +12 volts wires coming from your fog lights. These wires will go to terminal 87 of a SPDT automotive relay. Terminal 30 will go straight to the battery, and will need an inline fuse. Terminal 86 will go to ground. Terminal 85 will go to one side of a switch, and the other side of the switch will go to one of your ignition wires in the ignition harness. This will make it so that your fog lights won't be able to be on when your key isn't turned to the ignition on position though. If you want to be able to turn them on whenever you want, you could wire the other side of the switch that doesn't go to the relay straight to your battery, though you may kill your car's battery if you ever forget to turn off your fog lights. Personally, when I get more fog lights, I will tap into the parking light circuit to energize the coil of the relay, so that my fog lights will require the parking lights to be on and will make use of the car's auto-off feature. Hope this helps.
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