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Stage 3 Clutch..., What is it?

Dec 27, 2003 - 4:37 PM
Phat_Boi View Member Profile Enthusiast Joined Dec 6, '03 From Florida Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)	Was wondering what a stage 3 clutch was like. I was checking out this Civic and the guy is like it has a stage 3 clutch in it and thats all he would tell me over the phone. Is this a different type of clutch than normal that makes it harder or easier to shift. Just a n00b question.

Dec 27, 2003 - 5:02 PM
yep View Member Profile Enthusiast Joined Jun 24, '03 From MD Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)	The higher stage the clutch, the more modified the car is. I.E. a stage 1 clutch would be used on a lightly modified car and a stage 2 would be used on a moderate to heavy.

Dec 27, 2003 - 5:46 PM
Guest_Jason_* Guest_Jason_* View Member Profile	Stage One Clutch: is mainly for daily drivers, is a heat-treated clutch. Stage Two Clutch: is a street/racing clutch. Is also heat-treated and made with fiber-tuff pucks. Best clutch for dealing with light bolt-on modifications (other than Intake and Exhaust) and Nitrous. Increases clamp load by 65%. Stage Three Clutch: is a racing only clutch, made with a ceramic puck, engages immediatly to the pressure plate and fly wheel. Not designed for low RPMs, will make tons of noise (not bad fyi.) because of the ceramic puck being aggressive. Increases clamp load by 65%. Stage Four Clutch: is made for race track driving. Also is a ceramic puck, but has no springs - just a solid hub assembly. Increases clamp load by 75%. My former Integra had a Stage 1 Clutch installed, and I fell in love with it. This post has been edited by Jason: Dec 27, 2003 - 5:48 PM

Dec 27, 2003 - 6:06 PM
kuya1284 View Member Profile Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '02 From Corona & Vallejo, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)	Keep in mind that each manufacturer uses different materials and designs for their stage classifications... I have a ClutchMasters FX300 (stage 3) clutch, and it feels like stock. I know other companies make stage 3 clutches using pucks instead of dampeners...

Dec 27, 2003 - 6:34 PM
Guest_Jason_* Guest_Jason_* View Member Profile	Didn't realize that, thanks Ray. I've dealt with ProClutch the most, and thats pretty much what i've gathered from them, never really realized that it was pretty much a ProClutch assembly.

Dec 28, 2003 - 2:15 AM

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QUOTE (Jason @ Dec 27, 2003 - 4:34 PM)

Didn't realize that, thanks Ray.

I've dealt with ProClutch the most, and thats pretty much what i've gathered from them, never really realized that it was pretty much a ProClutch assembly.

Dec 28, 2003 - 10:25 PM
DustyBurns30 View Member Profile Enthusiast Joined Jul 31, '03 From Panama City Beach, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%)	hey kuya, does your clutch masters stage 3 buck at all when you drop the clutch?

Dec 29, 2003 - 4:30 AM

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QUOTE (DustyBurns30 @ Dec 28, 2003 - 8:25 PM)

hey kuya, does your clutch masters stage 3 buck at all when you drop the clutch?

buck?

Dec 29, 2003 - 10:12 PM
DustyBurns30 View Member Profile Enthusiast Joined Jul 31, '03 From Panama City Beach, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%)	yeah, when you just drop the clutch in second gear or something the car hops and kinda throws you forward and backward. i dont know if that makes sense, the stock clutch does it not when speed shifting but when im shifting a little faster and i get lazy with the clutch.

Jan 1, 2004 - 8:37 PM

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QUOTE (DustyBurns30 @ Dec 29, 2003 - 8:12 PM)

yeah, when you just drop the clutch in second gear or something the car hops and kinda throws you forward and backward.

i dont know if that makes sense, the stock clutch does it not when speed shifting but when im shifting a little faster and i get lazy with the clutch.

I haven't noticed my car doing this with the new clutch...

Jan 2, 2004 - 12:20 AM

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QUOTE (DustyBurns30 @ Dec 29, 2003 - 8:12 PM)

yeah, when you just drop the clutch in second gear or something the car hops and kinda throws you forward and backward.

i dont know if that makes sense, the stock clutch does it not when speed shifting but when im shifting a little faster and i get lazy with the clutch.

A heavier clutch on a car like ours with lower engine output would probably feel rougher, if thats what you mean by the bucking. Other than that, it could just be a personal feel issue where you're trying too hard to dump that clutch for shorter shifts. Not to say that you suck or something, cuz im not like that....just that if you get lazy with the clutch, any type of clutch will throw you foward and backward a little if you arent smooooothhh.

If youre patient and smooth (yet quick) with your clutch instead of "dropping" the clutch too roughly, it will be much more precise and direct when you get back on the gas. More direct = more power to wheels = the point of a heaver clutch.

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Jan 2, 2004 - 10:09 AM

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QUOTE (kuya1284 @ Jan 1, 2004 - 6:37 PM)

QUOTE (DustyBurns30 @ Dec 29, 2003 - 8:12 PM)

yeah, when you just drop the clutch in second gear or something the car hops and kinda throws you forward and backward.

i dont know if that makes sense, the stock clutch does it not when speed shifting but when im shifting a little faster and i get lazy with the clutch.

I haven't noticed my car doing this with the new clutch...

OK Dusty... I was thinking about what you were asking... but are you asking me if my car bucks from launching the car (from a complete stop) in second gear? Are you wondering if it bucks if I launched in 2nd by flooring the gas? If so, I'll give it a try later...

By bucking... I'm assuming that you're referring to how the car jerks back and forth as a car is about to stall... like when learning to driving a stick for the first time. Let me know if I'm understanding you correctly.

Jan 2, 2004 - 3:08 PM
DustyBurns30 View Member Profile Enthusiast Joined Jul 31, '03 From Panama City Beach, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%)	it doesn't do it when speed shifting. and i'm not talking about the launch, im just asking really if you can tell the difference in the grab over stock in all parts of shifting. not that im stalling the car or anything but have you ever just gotten a little quick with the clutch and had it rock you forward a little just when shifting mainly into second? my brother has a performance tranny and clutch in his mustang and you couldnt make that thing buck if you wanted too. so what im tyring to figure out is if a performance clutch in our cars would act the same or if its just the power of his car. man, im trying to put this in words that wont make me look like i dont know how to drive a manual.

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