k series swap? Options

[kurt95gt]

My thread probably makes it seem alot scarier that it is cuz alot of it came down to trial an error since theres no real good info for this swap into the celica that an i had to make all my custom parts
now for a small fee.smaay will make the motor mount . Mr220v does a great job on the harness
Ive thought about getting in touch with one of the mods to make a small list of whats in my swap to put in the sticky since i know theres alot of missinfo in my thread cuz of other stuff ive done along the way
its really no harder than a 3s swap

[zfjohnson07]

lol maybe my next car!

[dliverance]

Well my curiosity is peaked. Did you have to do some crazy axle work or did you use the stock gt axles. Also, how does it feel without the lsd?

[kurt95gt]

Since i used the stock gt trans im still running stock gt axles. The only crazy work i had to do was make a custom pass side mount an a custom axle mount.
The only hard part was figuring out what parts would work best
Like i have a 96 motor so it matchs the stock fuel system but i had to use a 97 ecu so i could still read codes an since i had to run the 97 ecu i had to run a 97 maf too since it sends info alittle differently to the ecu
i had to run an aftermarket fuel pressure regulator too because of the 97 ecu so i could bump up thr psi in the system.
Like i said trial an error till it was right.

It feels good without the lsd. Although at first i faught torque steer because one tire was getting more power than the other an would feel like it was ripping the wheel out of my hand but after i gut use to it on hard acceleration its not a problem now

[Smaay]

are you in Hollywood CA or eleswhere? im in Lancaster CA just north of hollywood and im doing a 1mz swap in my 6th gen. once i know how to do everything, it will be really easy to do another one.

[95CelicaST]

Power will depend on the year of 1MZ. My 94 1MZ with a LinkECU+tune, simple intake, headers, and exhaust makes 185whp/201wtq. Been getting low-mid 20's on MPG, because the S54 is geared so short and my commute to work is almost 50 miles a day at freeway speeds... I live in 5th gear @ 4k rpms.

If you had a 97+ with VVT-i you might find my numbers would be stock figures due to refinements in the motor. Kurt, you're probably ~10whp/10wtq shy of my numbers, but out of sheer interest I would recommend getting it dyno'ed. The v6 is lighter than the 5S so you're basically doubling the power output and shedding weight at the same time. The 1MZ came in a ton of other Toyotas, so they're cheap and plentiful.

[Smaay]

dang triple post!!!

the 1MZ didnt come with VVT until 2003. the only problem with that is that a VVT 1MZ and 3MZ never were mated to a 5 speed trans, therefore it wouldnt be legal in CA. now you can get around that like i am by using a 3.3L 3MZ block with non VVT 1MZ heads. basically creating a 3.3L 1MZ with a slightly higher compression. im expecting to make 200 to the wheels.

[dliverance]

I'm in Hollywood FL. I have to look into OBD1 1mz. So far it looks pretty promising. If I can get 200 to the wheels that would be a dream.

[95CelicaST]

Triple post because 6gc went down for a bit.

[mak5603]

Pretty sure it's like 200 to the crank, i've read as low as 160 whp, 180 ft lbs. torque. Not even close to 100hp per liter.

Y U NO like 3sgte?!

[dliverance]

3sgte is nice but I already have one turbo headache lol.

[mak5603]

3sgte is nice but I already have one turbo headache lol.

True that. What about k20 in the miata?

[Smaay]

too bad FL, i dont know their rules but i dont know why you need to stay ODB I.

[dliverance]

I don't have to stay OBD1 I'm just choosing to. There aren't many vehicle restrictions in FL. As for the k20 in the miata, they're working on a kit for that. I doubt it'll happen though.

[BonzaiCelica]

a k20 was put in a s2000 before. So I don't see why not

[99gt3sge]

if its a k20z1, a2, or z3 its worth it. i wanted to to that swap on a 5th gen but ended up doing a 3sgte swap. i driven a lot of swaped cars and by far the best n/a hands down has been a k motor. they pull out the weak 2zz out of the elise and mrs and put a k and it toys with a 2zz elise. even if its a k24 u can make more power than a 5s, and u can always swap the head later. it would be a sick ass sleeper ,if you do it post pics.

[BonzaiCelica]

get a redtop with blacktop internals.

[mak5603]

^^ sounds like an excessive amount of money for a super small gain..

[BonzaiCelica]

blacktops go for about $500 cheaper than redtop. for 10 extra hp and dual vvt-i its basically a k20.

[95CelicaST]

Hux Racing makes an adapter plate to mate a K-series with an E153, so it'll bolt in with a fabricated passenger side motor mount.

http://www.huxracing.com/#!Products%20and%20Pics/cco3