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> new Scion Tc debut out today ..
post Jan 13, 2004 - 3:49 AM
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as akimbo had stated in the NAIAS thread, he spoke to a toyota engineering rep at the show and the guy said they had no plans to dismiss the celica, nor bring back the supra... so i guess thats the best we have to go on right now... ill see what i can dig up when i go there tomorrow.


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post Jan 13, 2004 - 4:48 AM
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supra or no supra, toyota better start producing a high end car for me within the next 5 years. Planning on getting and tunning it after the 6thgen is done. and after more looks into the tC, its not looking any better. they could have done better with teh interior and the rear. They did good by putting the console back in front of the driver and out of the center where the cd player with the lcd screen is suppose to be. but the the whole thing looks a bit cheap.
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post Jan 13, 2004 - 6:14 AM
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Well, i think its quite good. Yes it comes a bit short regarding the bhps but for the price of it, i think its a much better car than the 7gc. I wonder what will the 8gc will be.

I just cant stand you guys in the states. Why do you complain so much? 20K for the wages in the states is nothing. In my country we dont have the option for all the models in the world as you do and we have to pay double the price due custome duties. And we pay for gas 4 times as much as you. (more than $4 a gallon)

The strategy for the three different Toyota brands is quite scientific. There is a very good businees reason for that. In my country we get JDM used cars but people pay quite a bit more for their car to be a Lexus RX300 than a Toyota Harrier which are basically the same cars.

Scion is quite an interesting concept. we will have to wait and see more models to be able to form an opinion but so far i am quite pleased with the idea.

if only they include a high powered car to compete with the RX8! ! ! for under 20k. That would be perfect.
post Jan 13, 2004 - 7:02 AM
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I think this new Scion is just a 3-door variant of well-known Toyota Premio/Avensis/Carina/Corona family. Nobody calls them sporty cars, because they are somewhere between Corolla and Camry. I read that Corona was the first Toyota at the American market and Americans completely ignored it.

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By the way, there are powerful RWD and AWD Crowns and MarkII.



post Jan 13, 2004 - 8:19 AM
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QUOTE (neoklis @ Jan 13, 2004 - 7:14 AM)
Well, i think its quite good. Yes it comes a bit short regarding the bhps but for the price of it, i think its a much better car than the 7gc. I wonder what will the 8gc will be.

I just cant stand you guys in the states. Why do you complain so much? 20K for the wages in the states is nothing. In my country we dont have the option for all the models in the world as you do and we have to pay double the price due custome duties. And we pay for gas 4 times as much as you. (more than $4 a gallon)

The strategy for the three different Toyota brands is quite scientific. There is a very good businees reason for that. In my country we get JDM used cars but people pay quite a bit more for their car to be a Lexus RX300 than a Toyota Harrier which are basically the same cars.

Scion is quite an interesting concept. we will have to wait and see more models to be able to form an opinion but so far i am quite pleased with the idea.

if only they include a high powered car to compete with the RX8! ! ! for under 20k. That would be perfect.

i agree with you neokils peope in the states sure do complain alot about what they don't have and arent greatful for what they do have... toyota isn't the 3rd largest car company in the world for no reasons..


give toyota a chance... look at all the great cars they have come out with though out the years... and remeber the lexus SC (maybe stands for Supra Coupe?) isn't that still a toyot Rwd 240something hp sports car?


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post Jan 13, 2004 - 8:23 AM
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SC430? Surely you're mistaken. Sure, it has a nice 300hp. But, the $63,225 pricetag for the base model is a little bit.. much?

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post Jan 13, 2004 - 8:26 AM
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QUOTE (Hym3n @ Jan 13, 2004 - 9:23 AM)
SC430? Surely you're mistaken. Sure, it has a nice 300hp. But, the $63,225 pricetag for the base model is a little bit.. much?

-Brian

well see thats another thing everyone wants performance but that coast money if you want it with quality they way toyota makes cars.. they make cars that will last a good 20 years... so a 300hp car is going to be big hit on the wallet


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post Jan 13, 2004 - 8:47 AM
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Japanese point of view of interchangeability of parts will be the key.
If you have an alternative to change the engine and put a much more powerfull one will solve alot of problems.
i.e. GT4 engines that can be put eaisly on quite many toyota cars.

That is only probable though if you also have good quality (ie toyota quality) If the base car is not built with quality in mind, then your efforts will be pointless and dangerous as many honda and mitsubishi owners that were involve in accidents know.
post Jan 13, 2004 - 6:23 PM
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looks better in person, and the interior looks very nice in person.
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