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post Jan 17, 2004 - 5:31 AM
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You are not the only one who is working hard. I am a CPA and it is tax season in my country right now. I am pushing minimum 16 hour days and finding time to deal with anything else is impossible. That is why i made this thread, because i was not getting any answers from you when i checked and saw that you had read my emails. I will send you an email and ask you for shipping numbers and stuff so that we dont get misanderstood any more.

When the tail lights arrive i will post a FULL apology. I have nothing against you and how could I, being 8,000 miles away from you.
post Jan 17, 2004 - 11:48 AM
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When the tail lights arrive i will post a FULL apology. I have nothing against you and how could I, being 8,000 miles away from you.


you posted his full name and city that he lives in online.. that is what made him mad. Granted Stipt is my friend and he prolly should of kept up contact with you a little better but putting his name and the city he lives in online is kinda crossing the line. Im not jumpin on you here neoklis... I actually don't have a problem with you at all, you have been helpful on the boards and shown yourself to be a postive constructive member... but I would like to use this as an example of why you don't do that.

even me who doesnt really know the 1st things about these TV typwriters can figure out where someone lives in a matter of mins online with just a name and the city they live in, someone with a little more skillz on the computer could do alot more than that if they wanted to. All someone would have to do is look at all the posts that stipt has ever put on this board to figure out basically everything he has... now how hard would it be to go to his house and take what you wanted if you lived close? Hell if I didnt know him I would be tempted wink.gif J/K stipt.

Now I know how bad if sucks to think your gettin screwed by someone.. just a few weeks ago I put this post up

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okay so i might be gettin screwed outta $300 bucks

heres the deal I purchased a downpipe and a intercooler fan from this guy

aol/aim name: ARTINIZAK

this is his ebay account name:artini-zak

I have recieved the intercooler fan from him but have not heard a thing about the downpipe.

I have tried contacting him and he either ignores me or tells me to hold on and then never gets back to me.

Just to let you all know untill I say otherwise (like this is just a misunderstanding, etc) I would strongly recommend not dealing with this individual.


Now he had over $300 of my money and hadn't heard from him in over 2 months.. no response to emails or ims or anything.. would sign off as soon as I got online, etc.. and even though I thought he was gonna screw me I gave just enuf info to keep people informed of him with out getting overly personal.. I coulda posted a photo, name, address etc about him but I didnt out of respect - even though I fully expected to get screwed.

Finally after contacting him he sent me the tracking number and a few days later I had the product - and I have no hard feelings about it, I prolly wont do buisness with him agian but the end result is what matters.

I understand the whole getting it shipped by a deadline but even if he had gotten it out on time who is to say that it would of arrived on time? Yes you asked him to ship it out.. and it should of been, and it wasnt so you can fault him on that. As for shipping it over seas - well I have shipped tail lights to and from hongkong before and it was 20 bucks.. shipping alone to where ever your relative would of been would of been 10-15 so what is another 5$?

You have a valid point here neoklis but I just kinda feel that it should of been approched a little different, You did remove his name pretty quick and that was cool of you but I think in the future we all should refrain from posting our own names and others.. I rarely will even post my 1st name.. even in PM's smile.gif


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post Jan 17, 2004 - 2:22 PM
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i am with neoklis on this one. hopefully it works out man.

stipt deserved to have his name posted; but its easier to find out about him then u stated. go to yahoo people search type in a name city and state and you can have his adress phone number etc.

either way hope everything works out.
post Jan 17, 2004 - 3:07 PM
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Possibly you deserve to have your HD to be eatin away by back oriface. Or possibly routed to many porn paying sites to up your telephone bill. How about I just constantly open your CD case over and over. Either way, This post does need to die and I have apologized and still nothing. If you think I deserve that, you probably deserve a fist in the ya know what. You rip and taunt on me for one mistake. One...if it was a common thing I can understand. But One, people are not allowed to make one mistake without being torn apart having apples thrown at them by the miserable little peons that inhabit this land of piss? Hmmm guess not, I'm done on this thread as I can see everyone is a perfectionist and will never see that, one mistake does not lable someone...or does it. It just shows how dense you people are and childish. Wait till you make a slip up and see if people forgive you for it. Don't be surprised if they treat you like crap.

Oh and about finding out more about someone, if your smart, which I highly doubt you are, you can find a person's SSN, Address, Previous Address, Phone, CC#, Car plates, registration date, where they work, what bills they have. So, if you want my name posted, fine, I can screw your life up too, not too hard now days if you konw comps well enough.
post Jan 17, 2004 - 3:47 PM
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QUOTE (Stipt @ Jan 17, 2004 - 3:07 PM)
Possibly you deserve to have your HD to be eatin away by back oriface. Or possibly routed to many porn paying sites to up your telephone bill. How about I just constantly open your CD case over and over. Either way, This post does need to die and I have apologized and still nothing. If you think I deserve that, you probably deserve a fist in the ya know what. You rip and taunt on me for one mistake. One...if it was a common thing I can understand. But One, people are not allowed to make one mistake without being torn apart having apples thrown at them by the miserable little peons that inhabit this land of piss? Hmmm guess not, I'm done on this thread as I can see everyone is a perfectionist and will never see that, one mistake does not lable someone...or does it. It just shows how dense you people are and childish. Wait till you make a slip up and see if people forgive you for it. Don't be surprised if they treat you like crap.

Oh and about finding out more about someone, if your smart, which I highly doubt you are, you can find a person's SSN, Address, Previous Address, Phone, CC#, Car plates, registration date, where they work, what bills they have. So, if you want my name posted, fine, I can screw your life up too, not too hard now days if you konw comps well enough.

stop threatening people f4gg0t.
post Jan 17, 2004 - 5:02 PM
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Hey Stipt, I feel your pain but you are too aggressive. I admit i did a mistake by putting your name up. But i quickly edited that immediately when i saw that this would be a problem. As for the city; well that is shown on your signature when you post or reply any thread. I have to say that the only reason i put your name in the first place was to see if someone else new you and maybe contact you or let me know what is going on.As you can see, this is what has happen and Neverstop was the one that got in the middle of this to help us sort things out.

Just to be over with this thing I NEOKLIS AM MAKING A FULL APOLOGY FOR THIS THREAD AND ANY HARM I MAY HAVE CAUSED STIPT. I CAN SEE NOW THAT I MAY HAVE BEEN TOO HASTY IN ACCUSING HIM WITHOUT BEEING ABSOLOUTELY SURE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Please note that this post is made to clear any suspecion over Stipt and in order to cool things down, even if i have not yet received anything but a promise that he has sent me what i paid for.

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post Jan 17, 2004 - 5:35 PM
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QUOTE (ScoobyDooCruiser @ Jan 16, 2004 - 10:01 AM)
Something thats worked for me is the online escrow companies. Both people agree to the service. The buyer sends the money to the company, they keep it tell the buyer gets what they want and then the seller gets the money. It works pretty well, and they ususally only chanrge 10%... Anyways. Good luck to the both of you that you get this worked out- and stipt, good luck with toysport, i've heard they're slow, but usually they get around to shipping, it just takes a while, so don't despair.

I think paypay only charged like 3% for the transaction we had and that was just because you used a credit card.

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when push comes to shove, you would take care of yourselves before someone else no matter how wrong that sounds

This isn't survival here, this is business. How often at work (as a businessman) do you suck up to your clients and go out of your way to make yourself happy before them??? If a business thought the salesperson is more important then clients, this business would not be sucessful.

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QUOTE (Stipt @ Jan 17, 2004 - 3:07 PM)
Possibly you deserve to have your HD to be eatin away by back oriface. Or possibly routed to many porn paying sites to up your telephone bill. How about I just constantly open your CD case over and over. Either way, This post does need to die and I have apologized and still nothing. If you think I deserve that, you probably deserve a fist in the ya know what. You rip and taunt on me for one mistake. One...if it was a common thing I can understand. But One, people are not allowed to make one mistake without being torn apart having apples thrown at them by the miserable little peons that inhabit this land of piss? Hmmm guess not, I'm done on this thread as I can see everyone is a perfectionist and will never see that, one mistake does not lable someone...or does it. It just shows how dense you people are and childish. Wait till you make a slip up and see if people forgive you for it. Don't be surprised if they treat you like crap.

Oh and about finding out more about someone, if your smart, which I highly doubt you are, you can find a person's SSN, Address, Previous Address, Phone, CC#, Car plates, registration date, where they work, what bills they have. So, if you want my name posted, fine, I can screw your life up too, not too hard now days if you konw comps well enough. 


stop threatening people f4gg0t.


I agree with you.

Remember what happened to Matthew for making "h4x0r" comments? That is a little extreme and your living in the movie "The Net." If you had access to this information, the problems with the people at Toysport would have been resolved just a little bit faster. Also, you would be rich (IE pay for something on CC and wipe it) And for having this much knowledge you should probably know that it is label and not "lable"

I'm not trying to instigate or elevate this thread, I just think you are WAY overreacting for the situation. I hear the word "Sorry" can go a long way. Would have it been THAT hard to say it? He didn't know the situation so what did he have to base his argument off? You DID know the situation and did a terrible job of informing him. Just think if you sent me 100 dollars and I said I was going to get you something and a month later nothing is going on and no word.

I think your way over reacting to having your name posted on the internet. My name is Shawn Anderson. If you look around in some of these forums I've seen peoples phone numbers, even people I have been in verbal disputes with. Taking an internet "fight" off the internet would be reserved for very psychotic people. Everyone has the attitude that instead of talking face to face we are talking computer to computer, which is why some jacked guy will be ripped on my the 100 pound skinny computer nerd. This happens too often and if the internet was more face to face I think it would be a more friendly place.

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You have a valid point here neoklis but I just kinda feel that it should of been approched a little different, You did remove his name pretty quick and that was cool of you but I think in the future we all should refrain from posting our own names and others.. I rarely will even post my 1st name.. even in PM's 


Look at how easy it would be to grab Coomer's name, it is ALL over the place. I'm not scared to post mine because I know that no one here will actually take the liberty of hunting me down. Think of EVERY time you send out an email or your name is readily availble through your work. I used to work as an inbound telemarketer and the FCC REQUIRED us to say our first and LAST names. I think a telemarketer would take a little more flack for what they are doing then someone posting stuff on the internet. No one is out to get you or Stipt.

Anyways, to summarize: You over reacted. You do not deserve ANY type of apology from him because he posted your name on the internet. I would personally like to know your name so I do not do business with you (Not because it's your fault or anything but for lack of communication) You owe him an apology for lack of communication. So stop trying to be the bigger man and just admit this whole thread is your fault.

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post Jan 18, 2004 - 4:14 PM
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Not really, they keep most things on paper not computers. Also, I can not speed up the process on how they do manual labor. As for threats, my name is being slandered, after an apology and explaination and for one mistake. Perfection is not human nature, perfection is a myth created by humans to make others feel better and give them something to work for and to believe that perfection is achieved through many hours of practice. Perfection is a falsehood told from parents to children to make them behave and give them a false sense of security and some sort of idea of how they want to be when they get older. If perfection existed, then sorry for screwing up... if it doesn't please retract your statement as I feel it being unneccessary since I have already apologized twice to him. Being the bigger man I was, I admited my mistake. Oh and for me freaking out earlier, that was because my full name was posted on the forum which is kinda a big no no in the world of the net. So again, if you have more complaining and teachings from your mind of knowledge, please feel free to type them down and notice that, its done and over with.
post Jan 18, 2004 - 4:19 PM
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And the lack of communitcation I also explained to him and apologized, so thats fine if you don't want to do business with me. Don't do business with stipt because thats the only sig I use. And you may not care if your name is posted on the net, thats fine, that is your own opinion, but I do. Its a personal thing and should only be released upon my permission. Again, this post needs to die for the business is done and over with. He should get them Wednesday. I had one screw up outta like 15 transactions, whoopy! Sorry, I f0cked up. Once again, I admite to my mistake, its a mistake, that is all. If I was trying to screw him I would have used a fake name, to someone elses address or a business, then I would have used a new email account and screwed him outta $$$ that way. So if you see, my intentions were not to screw him outta the deal, it was just a big mistake, and I have already received apology from him because even before transactions were made he has made it clear that he did not trust me. If you feel uneasy dealing with someone, don't do business.
post Jan 18, 2004 - 4:49 PM
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QUOTE (Stipt @ Jan 18, 2004 - 2:19 PM)
And the lack of communitcation I also explained to him and apologized, so thats fine if you don't want to do business with me. Don't do business with stipt because thats the only sig I use. And you may not care if your name is posted on the net, thats fine, that is your own opinion, but I do. Its a personal thing and should only be released upon my permission. Again, this post needs to die for the business is done and over with. He should get them Wednesday. I had one screw up outta like 15 transactions, whoopy! Sorry, I f0cked up. Once again, I admite to my mistake, its a mistake, that is all. If I was trying to screw him I would have used a fake name, to someone elses address or a business, then I would have used a new email account and screwed him outta $$$ that way. So if you see, my intentions were not to screw him outta the deal, it was just a big mistake, and I have already received apology from him because even before transactions were made he has made it clear that he did not trust me. If you feel uneasy dealing with someone, don't do business.

I never said you nor anyone was perfect. But thank you for understanding his point of view and thank you for admitting what happened in this situation could have been handled better.


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post Jan 18, 2004 - 6:30 PM
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ok.... stipt made a mistake, neoklis made a mistake, they both appologized, neoklis is getting his stuff.... can we get coomer or somebody to lock or delete this thread or something?


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Only if Stipt had sent an e-mail( a few words) to neoklis before this thread started...he seems to have typed more in this thread than in all the mails he would have sent to customers over that past year... biggrin.gif


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post Jan 19, 2004 - 4:39 AM
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so did anyone watch football this weekend... I thought the eagle would have played better...


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Working and spending time with my fiance I believe is more important than checking my email daily.
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QUOTE (celicarocker @ Jan 18, 2004 - 11:30 PM)
ok.... stipt made a mistake, neoklis made a mistake, they both appologized, neoklis is getting his stuff.... can we get coomer or somebody to lock or delete this thread or something?

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QUOTE (macavely @ Jan 19, 2004 - 2:39 AM)
so did anyone watch football this weekend... I thought the eagle would have played better...

I only watched the Pat's play the Colts. I was very disappointed in Manning... frown.gif

4 Ints? Bah!
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Well now that Carolina is the underdog i will be rooting for them but Pats will probably win.

And since this thread is probably getting put away anyway i might as well throw in my 2 cents.

As a business man Stipt, even if u dont really agree, atleast try to sound like the customer is important to u. Also in an effort to keep ur business never and i mean NEVER blame the customer. Notice how quikly he was to take ur name down(so fast i couldnt see either) and to apologize even though he didnt recieve his items yet. Now it should be your turn and then this is over. You shouldnt put urself in an "you against the world" situation because thats not a very productive attitude nor one people enjoy to be around , especially because noone was really harrassing u im sure if u were calm about it it would have been over much sooner. it was ur little fit that sparked the negative remarks.

anyway just my 2 cents

go carolona (ravens in superbowl next year wink.gif)
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WOW after reading how you reacted to neoklis' post you sound more like a jackass then anything else. If your getting married why dont you act like an adult instead of a 14 year old kid who thinks he is never wrong. YOU F*CKED UP. Admit it!! YOU F*CKED UP!!!!

I know exactly how neoklis is feeling about this. I had the same thing happen except with a $2000 paintball gun. I had to resort to a lawyer to get it, all because some jackass kid thought it would be funny to never reply to any of my emails or calls. And I'll be damned if that lawyer hadnt helped me out then I would be out $2000 grand because he lived in Cali.

If you fixed the issue then fine. Let it be. But dont bring your horse sh*t on this forum and bitch at people that had no part in your ordeal.



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post Jan 19, 2004 - 6:02 PM
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You have no part in this ordeal, and a 14 year old kid? Thats the reaction of someone under tons of stress. I have admited that I ****ed up did I not ya c0ck? Exactly my point. I admit and you still move to believe I think I'm right. How dumb are you, really?
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it's done, everyone got what they wanted. no hard feelings. it's over.

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