Fog Don't Come on Unless Headlights are On...???, Stock '97 Vert |
Fog Don't Come on Unless Headlights are On...???, Stock '97 Vert |
Dec 14, 2012 - 1:48 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 25, '12 From Pennsylvania Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
The owner's manual says they should come on when the tail lights are turned on (guess they mean parking lights ), but will only come on with the low beam headlights on as well. They go back off when the high beams are switched on. Is this normal for a U.S. Celica?
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Dec 14, 2012 - 6:21 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 29, '10 From Lake Havasu City, AZ Currently Offline Reputation: 31 (100%) |
The owner's manual says they should come on when the tail lights are turned on (guess they mean parking lights ), but will only come on with the low beam headlights on as well. They go back off when the high beams are switched on. Is this normal for a U.S. Celica? Mine does the same, thought that was how it was supposed to be -------------------- 6gcHeroes:808hectortimmybatmandiegotigamak |
Dec 14, 2012 - 6:55 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 15, '08 From Royal Oak, MI Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
The owner's manual says they should come on when the tail lights are turned on (guess they mean parking lights ), but will only come on with the low beam headlights on as well. They go back off when the high beams are switched on. Is this normal for a U.S. Celica? Yes, this is normal. -------------------- God made man....
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Dec 14, 2012 - 8:13 PM |
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Moderator Joined Jun 29, '08 From Denver Currently Offline Reputation: 59 (100%) |
Every Toyota I've seen is like that. I've driven a few other vehicles that could have fog lights without the headlights but not a Toyota.
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Dec 15, 2012 - 12:12 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 18, '05 From Lincoln, Ar Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
If you still can't see with the High Beams on, might want to get your vision checked...
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Dec 15, 2012 - 10:03 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 25, '12 From Pennsylvania Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Just giving a complete picture of the situation. The bright lights on this car light up the night more than any other car I've driven.
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Dec 15, 2012 - 10:14 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 8, '12 From Hanford/Fresno, Ca Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
My fogs are on only when I have ONLY my low beams on. If I switch it to parking lights or Hi beams. The fog light will turn/stay off.
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Dec 16, 2012 - 1:23 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 31, '11 From Rochester, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
You can run a relay to your parking lights if you want them on without your headlights on (city light style). They will stay on with the high beams too. You should see my front end when all the lights are on lmao
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Dec 16, 2012 - 6:00 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 25, '12 From Pennsylvania Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I like the relay idea! Beside my '96 Jeep Grand Cherokee, this is the only vehicle I've owned with fog lights. I was under the impression that fog lights used in actual fog worked best without any headlights, high or low beam. I could be wrong, but won't know until I run some sort of relay for the Celica. We do have lots of fog here right now, and this coming week could be very foggy.
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Dec 16, 2012 - 6:48 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 3, '05 From Richmond, B.C. Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Jurisdictions which required daytime running lights -- which didn't include the US at the time -- used the fog lights. These cars, which included those in Canada, turn the parking and fog lights on with the engine; activating the headlights turn the fogs off unless you had the fog light switch depressed.
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Dec 17, 2012 - 2:20 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 11, '07 From Davie, Florida Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
It may sound dumb, but in fog, your vision is hindered even more when the high beams are engaged. That's why the "fog" lights are at the lowest part of the bumper on most cars cause lighting up the road at the lowest point helps you the best with your vision, in fog. That's why they disengage the fogs when the high beams are turned on. Toyota has ALWAYS set the fogs to turn on ONLY when the high beams are engaged. I don't know why, but that's their protocol.
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Dec 17, 2012 - 7:58 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 8, '12 From Hanford/Fresno, Ca Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
It may sound dumb, but in fog, your vision is hindered even more when the high beams are engaged. That's why the "fog" lights are at the lowest part of the bumper on most cars cause lighting up the road at the lowest point helps you the best with your vision, in fog. That's why they disengage the fogs when the high beams are turned on. Toyota has ALWAYS set the fogs to turn on ONLY when the high beams are engaged. I don't know why, but that's their protocol. -Ryan Do you mean "ONLY when the high beams are NOT engaged?" -------------------- |
Dec 19, 2012 - 3:56 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 30, '12 From Ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I'll agree with this as well, it has always been the way Toyota operates fogs.
I personally like them to come on with at least the parking lights. Mine also stay on with the low beams and high beams, but I've been considering making them come on only with parking and low, and turn off with high beams. |
Dec 20, 2012 - 11:10 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 11, '07 From Davie, Florida Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
It may sound dumb, but in fog, your vision is hindered even more when the high beams are engaged. That's why the "fog" lights are at the lowest part of the bumper on most cars cause lighting up the road at the lowest point helps you the best with your vision, in fog. That's why they disengage the fogs when the high beams are turned on. Toyota has ALWAYS set the fogs to turn on ONLY when the high beams are engaged. I don't know why, but that's their protocol. -Ryan Do you mean "ONLY when the high beams are NOT engaged?" No, it is right the way I stated. I know it may sound unorthodox, but high beams aren't supposed to be used in fog. High beams light up higher than fogs, hence the name high beams. Fog lights focus on the lower part of the road cause, essentially, that's the part of the road where is most visible in fog! |
Dec 20, 2012 - 11:14 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 11, '07 From Davie, Florida Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
It may sound dumb, but in fog, your vision is hindered even more when the high beams are engaged. That's why the "fog" lights are at the lowest part of the bumper on most cars cause lighting up the road at the lowest point helps you the best with your vision, in fog. That's why they disengage the fogs when the high beams are turned on. Toyota has ALWAYS set the fogs to turn on ONLY when the high beams are NOT engaged. I don't know why, but that's their protocol. -Ryan Do you mean "ONLY when the high beams are NOT engaged?" I know understand which part of my comment you were talking about. Sorry about that. -Ryan |
Dec 22, 2012 - 9:09 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 3, '06 From The Netherlands Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
Us regulations seems way different then euro. Here we can switch on the fogs the moment we turn our parking lights on. They will work with low beams on and even with high beams on too.
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