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> motor swap advice pleaseeeee!!!, motor swap
post Apr 23, 2013 - 12:27 AM
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QUOTE (Smaay @ Apr 22, 2013 - 9:27 AM) *
you could somehow cap the transfer case and use it as a FWD but why? you would need ST 205 axles which probably come with the trans so that mute. but you would not "burn" anything up if you did that.

I recall it had to do with putting all of the stress of moving the car on the front wheels only when it was meant to apply the power to all four. Again just going off the sticky info.



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post Apr 23, 2013 - 12:31 AM
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QUOTE (96celiest @ Apr 22, 2013 - 10:15 PM) *
OK thanks everyone for the replays!! But um does anyone know were I can find the 96 3sgte rear wheel drive setup I can't find any anywhere? I can't even find a nice 3sgte yet alone with the rear assembly. It sucks being in Pennsylvania I cant find any parts cars there so scarce around here only a couple and everyone who owns them seems like theyve had them for awhile and stillll love em! But yea I'd appreciate a good reply thank you everyone for the help idk what I'd do without it kindasad.gif


Your best bet would be to buy off eBay. Once again this is where the allure of the 1MZ-FE comes in. I'm willing to bet you can go to your nearest junkyard and find one.


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post Apr 23, 2013 - 12:44 AM
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QUOTE (Box @ Apr 23, 2013 - 1:31 AM) *
QUOTE (96celiest @ Apr 22, 2013 - 10:15 PM) *
OK thanks everyone for the replays!! But um does anyone know were I can find the 96 3sgte rear wheel drive setup I can't find any anywhere? I can't even find a nice 3sgte yet alone with the rear assembly. It sucks being in Pennsylvania I cant find any parts cars there so scarce around here only a couple and everyone who owns them seems like theyve had them for awhile and stillll love em! But yea I'd appreciate a good reply thank you everyone for the help idk what I'd do without it kindasad.gif


Your best bet would be to buy off eBay. Once again this is where the allure of the 1MZ-FE comes in. I'm willing to bet you can go to your nearest junkyard and find one.


We take your point and appreciate your input... We ALL know that you have fallen in love with 1MZ, however the constant push to make everybody go your way is getting tiring. I'm sure the OP has considered this option, but has decided to pursue the 3S-GTE (Which is a far more popular option), and we should accept this decision unless they request further input. Maybe you could fulfill your needs by getting one yourself tongue.gif

Generally though, I feel that the OP may be rushing into this, and in my personal opinion should hold off until they have thoroughly read many of the great build threads and resources on this website and are confidant making this swap.


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post Apr 23, 2013 - 1:07 AM
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Actually up until now I'd have told him to sell it and buy something with a V8 already, so give me some credit here. The 3S-GTE just isn't feasible in his case, it's not like over in the land of Vegemite and monster spiders where getting Japanese cars and parts is easy. He's 17 in the states(east coast of all places) with what I assume to be a limited budget, the 1MZ-FE is the better choice in his case. Everyone telling him to go ahead with a more expensive swap, that god forbid he needs parts for it, is just appalling to me. The 1MZ-FE won't be that much slower(200 hp in a 2400 pound car is more than enough for a new driver), will be more reliable, has readily accessible parts, and still gets good fuel mileage on regular fuel. All things important to a 17 year old that this is his only car and has limited funding. If mommy and daddy can spare the money for the 3S swap and to maintain it, then by all means go with that.

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post Apr 23, 2013 - 1:54 AM
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im gonna agree 100% with Box on this one. parts are available, its half the price of a 3S and power wise its acceptable. if the OP is creative he can get a 3MZ and make the same about of power stock for stock. i have the dyno plots to proove it. i will beat any stock 3S on the street. now raising the boost will make it faster.


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post Apr 23, 2013 - 5:35 PM
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well anyhow while you all brawl it out on this guys post lol.
I do agree your moving fast into this, especially at such a young age. As far as the rear you need to do alot more research, i had talked with Jim (before he ****ed the world) about it and its quite difficult to source and do the conversion, and he had alot of connections and was importing from Japan himself. And there was a bit of custom work involved. I dont remember exactly this was like two years ago. Not to say its impossible but its going to take so much as for now id stick with fwd.
And just look on ebay for a front clip. Its going to be like 3-4 grand but thats only the beginning or the money your going to spend. IMHO id save like 6k before even thinking about it, especially if its your DD.
Not to mention if you dont have all the tools, parts missing from the clip, dont know 100% what your doing, ect.
I'd like to see another 6gc evolve but take your time. I get the feeling you are thinking this can happen quickly.


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post Apr 24, 2013 - 4:51 AM
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Ofcourse there's always the 20V option. Fits right on your ST motor brackets and you can use your own gearbox. I'd advise using the Blacktop instead of the silvertop except when you plan for boosting it later on. The silvertop is way overrated by Toyota in means of HP, but the Blacktop will achieve the HP given by Toyota.

But for all swaps counts: Think about your budget. If you think you're going to spend $1300, double it! It's always, i mean ALWAYS, much more expensive then you'd think.

If i could choose and lived in the US, i'd definitely go for the V6 swap. But i'm in Holland.

Ofcourse there's always the 20V option. Fits right on your ST motor brackets and you can use your own gearbox. I'd advise using the Blacktop instead of the silvertop except when you plan for boosting it later on. The silvertop is way overrated by Toyota in means of HP, but the Blacktop will achieve the HP given by Toyota.

But for all swaps counts: Think about your budget. If you think you're going to spend $1300, double it! It's always, i mean ALWAYS, much more expensive then you'd think.

If i could choose and lived in the US, i'd definitely go for the V6 swap. But i'm N/A minded smile.gif. The 3SGTE is a nice swap, but has bad fuel consumption very expensive parts (like the blacktop btw;)), etc.

Because the V6's are nowhere to find in holland i bought a 4AGE 20V Blacktop. Lightweight engine, could use my old motor mounts, own gearbox, nice technique for an older engine, etc. Even the wiring of the 7AFE is a bit similair like the Blacktop one.

This post has been edited by onnaj: Apr 24, 2013 - 5:02 AM


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