Air Filter which is better? |
Air Filter which is better? |
May 23, 2013 - 7:48 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 23, '13 From Cyprus,Limassol Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
My car have the stadard air filter...Its better to change it and put a mushroom air filter? Which one do you suggest me? I have listen very good opinions about the weapon-r dragon filter?
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May 23, 2013 - 12:50 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 8, '12 From Hanford/Fresno, Ca Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
Injen or weaponR. Up to you.
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May 23, 2013 - 1:02 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 15, '08 From Royal Oak, MI Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
Do a google search, you should find a lot of review not only on this site but on the other automotive forums as well.
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May 23, 2013 - 1:57 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
If you're not going to do a true cold air intake you're better of with using a K&N panel filter.
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May 23, 2013 - 1:59 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 15, '08 From Royal Oak, MI Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
If you're not going to do a true cold air intake you're better of with using a K&N panel filter. +1 I would have done this if my hose isnt cracked -------------------- God made man....
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May 23, 2013 - 2:09 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 23, '13 From Cyprus,Limassol Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yes i think about K&N panel filter but i will not have any change with the sound of the engine right?
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May 23, 2013 - 3:23 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yes i think about K&N panel filter but i will not have any change with the sound of the engine right? No. If you want sound go with a true cold air that puts the filter into the fender. The short ram intakes that have the filter exposed in the engine bay actually provide no gain, if not hurt performance. -------------------- 2001 Miata LS 5-speed
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May 23, 2013 - 3:38 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 23, '13 From Cyprus,Limassol Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yes i think about K&N panel filter but i will not have any change with the sound of the engine right? No. If you want sound go with a true cold air that puts the filter into the fender. The short ram intakes that have the filter exposed in the engine bay actually provide no gain, if not hurt performance. okay i will try to find a way to bring the filter in the front of the car or i will make a handmade box and put it inside.. -------------------- |
May 23, 2013 - 4:10 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 12, '13 From Bulgaria Currently Offline Reputation: 53 (100%) |
Yes i think about K&N panel filter but i will not have any change with the sound of the engine right? No. If you want sound go with a true cold air that puts the filter into the fender. The short ram intakes that have the filter exposed in the engine bay actually provide no gain, if not hurt performance. What is the reasoning behind the sound change and how would it actually sound? -------------------- |
May 23, 2013 - 6:42 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Some people like to hear the air coming into the engine. I do personally since I shift by sound most of the time.
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May 24, 2013 - 3:40 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 8, '12 From Hanford/Fresno, Ca Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
A short ram roars while the cold air purrs. I like the roar but some like the purr since it sounds like a whine(aka turbo). Lol.
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May 24, 2013 - 3:40 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 8, '12 From Hanford/Fresno, Ca Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
A short ram roars while the cold air purrs. I like the roar but some like the purr since it sounds like a whine(aka turbo). Lol.
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May 24, 2013 - 3:52 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 18, '05 From Lincoln, Ar Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
If you get a cold air and its a two piece, put on a bypass filter in between the two pipes. Nothing sucks worse than sucking up water.
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May 24, 2013 - 3:56 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
If you get a cold air and its a two piece, put on a bypass filter in between the two pipes. Nothing sucks worse than sucking up water. If the filter is located into the fender and not the bottom of the car shouldn't have a problem with that. If water reaches the upper fender I think sucking water is the least of your concerns at the moment. -------------------- 2001 Miata LS 5-speed
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May 24, 2013 - 9:35 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 23, '13 From Cyprus,Limassol Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
If you get a cold air and its a two piece, put on a bypass filter in between the two pipes. Nothing sucks worse than sucking up water. If the filter is located into the fender and not the bottom of the car shouldn't have a problem with that. If water reaches the upper fender I think sucking water is the least of your concerns at the moment. if i put the new filter in the same position where the panel filter box was its okay do you think? -------------------- |
May 24, 2013 - 11:11 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 18, '05 From Lincoln, Ar Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
If you get a cold air and its a two piece, put on a bypass filter in between the two pipes. Nothing sucks worse than sucking up water. If the filter is located into the fender and not the bottom of the car shouldn't have a problem with that. If water reaches the upper fender I think sucking water is the least of your concerns at the moment. I drove 2 years ago with water half way up my 17" wheels from a massive flood. My exhausts went bloop bloop bloop. After that I took off the other section of the intake and made it a short ram. |
May 25, 2013 - 1:22 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 23, '13 From Cyprus,Limassol Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
If you get a cold air and its a two piece, put on a bypass filter in between the two pipes. Nothing sucks worse than sucking up water. If the filter is located into the fender and not the bottom of the car shouldn't have a problem with that. If water reaches the upper fender I think sucking water is the least of your concerns at the moment. I drove 2 years ago with water half way up my 17" wheels from a massive flood. My exhausts went bloop bloop bloop. After that I took off the other section of the intake and made it a short ram. Wow :-) the good here i live in Cyprus we never have too much rain, and usually when its raining i never take the celica out -------------------- |
May 25, 2013 - 2:09 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 7, '07 From Corpus Christi, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
I found that Apexi air filters are really good as well . Up to par if not better than K&N. unfortunately they are expensive but well worth the costs in my opinion. Been running them for 5 years now with no problem what so ever.
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May 25, 2013 - 3:37 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 4, '12 From US Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
I saw a filter comparison somewhere where a couple of filters were tested against each other in a filtering and airflow test. Mushroom filters came out best flowing because the ones they used were designed with a velocity stack integrated into them which helps flow massively.
Cone filters the K&N was the best in terms of filtering but required maintenance (cleaning and re-oiling) to keep its filtering ability up its best. AEM Dryflow filtered less but requires less maintenance (just clean with water) and flowed a little better too iirc. Apexi filter was the best, I think it filtered better than the K&N and flowed better too, but was really more expensive than any other filter. I think the other filter they used was the HKS mushroom. -------------------- 1993 Celica GT Coupe - sold
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May 29, 2013 - 10:26 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 31, '11 From Rochester, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
Yes i think about K&N panel filter but i will not have any change with the sound of the engine right? No. If you want sound go with a true cold air that puts the filter into the fender. The short ram intakes that have the filter exposed in the engine bay actually provide no gain, if not hurt performance. Completely false. They tested this and it makes no difference where the filter is, not a noticeable one anyway. What really matters is the intake piping being a direct line into the throttlebody instead of having sections of dead and turbulent air due to stock baffling and "water protection" boxes. Ideally, the best setup is the stock air box with a high flow air filter and intake piping off of it into the throttlebody. Our Celica's take air from the front bumper and route it through the driver fender into a intake hole up to the air filter. I have my filter positioned right behind that intake hole/plastic air route piping and it does fine. Watch this: http://youtu.be/gCi2yo4UqPI I saw a filter comparison somewhere where a couple of filters were tested against each other in a filtering and airflow test. Mushroom filters came out best flowing because the ones they used were designed with a velocity stack integrated into them which helps flow massively. Cone filters the K&N was the best in terms of filtering but required maintenance (cleaning and re-oiling) to keep its filtering ability up its best. AEM Dryflow filtered less but requires less maintenance (just clean with water) and flowed a little better too iirc. Apexi filter was the best, I think it filtered better than the K&N and flowed better too, but was really more expensive than any other filter. I think the other filter they used was the HKS mushroom. For selecting a correct filter, this is right on for air flow. Realistically, the K&N, AEM, Injen, Weapon R, Spectre filters are all the same when it comes to oiled filters. So don't waste your money on the high end ones. Mushroom filters are most likely to allow dirt through, and you might as well use a stocking, and Dry Flow's seem to work well... Realistically though, you're not going to notice that much of a difference between them. So pick one you think looks and sounds cool and go with it. This post has been edited by RabidTRD: May 29, 2013 - 10:46 AM -------------------- 1994 Toyota Celica GT-S 5S-FE 190k Miles. Project car 1992 Toyota Celica GT 5S-FE 170k Miles. Daily driver/beater 1999 Toyota Camry LE 5S-FE 216K Miles. RIP You will be missed. *ASE Certified General Manager |
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