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post Aug 11, 2013 - 6:45 AM
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^ They can't, but then how many Subie dealers do you see vs. Toyota?


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post Aug 11, 2013 - 10:45 AM
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There are approx 6 frs at my local Toyota dealership and 0 at the Subaru dealership.


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post Aug 11, 2013 - 12:49 PM
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No matter whether Subaru wanted to sell more or not (and they do), they can't - they're contractually obligated to provide Toyota 3 cars for each one they get; the BRZ will always have less numbers sold than the 86/FR-S.


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post Aug 11, 2013 - 2:18 PM
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There are quite a few more Toyota dealers over Subaru dealers, at least within my vicinity. Hell, as far as numbers go I'd say Toyota is up there with the domestic brands in dealers around here.


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post Aug 12, 2013 - 1:06 AM
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QUOTE (Box @ Aug 11, 2013 - 8:32 AM) *
All I know is Subaru is making them, and Toyota is doing distribution where Subaru doesn't have a foothold. That may be the case in those scenarios, but over here Subaru is well established and how would they control what people decide to buy?

Just googled few phrases and here it is: http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=52&i=28149

Just the end of article: "Restricted supply means waiting lists for new buyers"

So you have choice... wait (till some Toyotas is sold) and some time later having your Subaru or just go to the next door dealership and buy 86 now that is stocked... Everyone say it is "the same car" so why would you do not do that?

Anyway... another interesting reading: http://www.motoring.com.au/news/2013/sport...the-radar-34735


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post Aug 12, 2013 - 1:47 AM
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Hmm... The only thing that makes me want the BRZ more is the Limited which has leather and alcantara interior.


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post Aug 12, 2013 - 3:05 PM
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Toyota owns Subaru. Look it up. At least a portion of it. As well as Toyota owns daihatsu, hino and others...


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post Aug 12, 2013 - 3:25 PM
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Renault owns Nissan, and Fiat owns Chrysler. BMW owns Rolls Royce, and Audi owns Lamborghini. What is the world coming to?

That's ok, the next Ford Mustang may be powered by a turbocharged I4. So who needs a turbo FR-S anyhow? tongue.gif


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post Aug 12, 2013 - 11:02 PM
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the next ford mustang will have a boxer engine, period.


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post Aug 13, 2013 - 6:35 PM
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QUOTE (Box @ Aug 12, 2013 - 3:25 PM) *
That's ok, the next Ford Mustang may be powered by a turbocharged I4.

Again? wink.gif


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post Aug 13, 2013 - 7:49 PM
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Hey, we don't talk about the SVO. tongue.gif


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post Aug 13, 2013 - 10:25 PM
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I had a friend with an SVO. That was a quick car. The next gen Nissan Z car may be powered by a turbo inline 4 as well. I'll be curious to see what happens to FR-S/BRZ sales if the Mustang and Z get turbo four cylinders.


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post Aug 13, 2013 - 11:32 PM
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What is the world coming to... If Nissan wants a 4 cylinder RWD car they need to bring back the Silvia. At least GM has good sense to take what works and keep going with it. I'm surprised they've taken the OHV V8 as far as they have, and they keep pushing it further. The C7 Vette is going to be a marvel of a car. 450 hp & 450 ft lb, gets 17/29, and will hit 60 in under 4 seconds. Where do I trade my soul in?

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post Aug 18, 2013 - 3:22 PM
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QUOTE (Box @ Aug 13, 2013 - 9:32 PM) *
What is the world coming to... If Nissan wants a 4 cylinder RWD car they need to bring back the Silvia. At least GM has good sense to take what works and keep going with it. I'm surprised they've taken the OHV V8 as far as they have, and they keep pushing it further. The C7 Vette is going to be a marvel of a car. 450 hp & 450 ft lb, gets 17/29, and will hit 60 in under 4 seconds. Where do I trade my soul in?


+1, bring back the 240s if they were going to do a I4 turbod.


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post Aug 19, 2013 - 1:22 PM
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Just as I said - no turbo. Suspension and exterior upgrades.

http://carview.yahoo.co.jp/news/newmodel/189948/

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44673


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SUBARU BRZ tS GT PACKAGE

<Major equipments of SUBARU BRZ tS>

-Mechanism-
225/40ZR18 (92Y) tires (Michelin Pilot Super Sport)
STI designed 18-inch x 7 1/2J aluminum wheels (silver)
brembo front 17-inch opposed 4-pot ventilated disc brake with "STI" logo
brembo rear 17-inch opposed 2-pot ventilated disc brake with "STI" logo
STI designed rear suspension link with pillow ball bush (trailing link front, lateral link front inside & rear inside)
STI tuned strut and STI coil springs for front suspension
STI tuned damper and STI coil springs for rear suspension
STI designed flexible tower bar, front
STI designed flexible draw stiffener, front
STI designed large-diameter driveshaft
Exclusively-tuned VDC (Vehicle Dynamics Control)
Exclusively-tuned filter for Sound CreatorŽ*2

-Exterior-
STI designed front under spoiler
STI designed front fender garnish with "STI" logo
Exclusively-made "STI" ornament (front & rear), "tS" ornament (rear)

-Interior-
Exclusively-made front seat with "STI" logo and red stitch
[AlcantaraŽ*3 (gray punching) / leather (gray), "STI" logo, gray stitch, front seat heater, SRS side airbag]
Exclusively-made leather lapped steering wheel (with "STI" ornament and red stitch)
STI designed leather shift knob (manual transmission) / select lever (automatic transmission) with "STI" logo
Exclusively-made speedometer with "STI" logo
Exclusively-made speedometer visor [AlcantaraŽ (black), black stitch]
Carbon tone instrument panel
STI designed push engine switch with "STI" logo (red)
Exclusively-made aluminum side sill plate with "tS" logo
STI designed leather access key cover (red)

-Equipments for GT PACKAGE-
STI designed 18-inch x 7 1/2J aluminum wheels (black)
STI designed dry carbon rear spoiler (2 angle adjustable)
Recaro designed front bucket seat
[AlcantaraŽ (gray punching) / leather (gray), "STI" logo, gray stitch, SRS side airbag]

*2: Sound CreatorŽ is the registered trademark of MAHLE Filter Systems Japan Corporation.
*3: AlcantaraŽ is the registered trademark of Alcantara S.p.A.

Maximum 500 units (must be pre-ordered by March 9, 2014)
[Including maximum 250 units of GT PACKAGE]



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post Aug 19, 2013 - 1:57 PM
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According to the Yahoo article it'll be $37,410 for the tS and $43,842 for the tS GT, at that point you're definitely into 370Z, Camaro SS, and 135i territory. My question being why did they add a larger diameter drive-shaft if they didn't increase the power? I suppose that's more for the people that turbo their car themselves.


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post Aug 19, 2013 - 6:29 PM
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lol, that much money for mods i dont want. i keep my car at the regular price...


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