how to swap a 2grfe V6 into a st204, Toyota reliability, with less moving parts than a turbo Options

[njccmd2002]

Will start an official thread, into this. wont go into detail. Will keep it mostly informative, because i know this will not be a favorite swap for most, and will be cost prohibitive for many.

Approximate cost of swap is around 7 to 8K, and will vary according of how far you want to go. mods and stuff

not going to get into detail about, a shopping list, or what not. there are multiple places you can get it, and it has been discussed before.

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the engine fits, and it barely makes it. will not fully disclose all that is being done, but will mos likely help anyone that wants to do this personally.

fitting the engine and mating the engine, can be found in the MR2OC forums, and i will not take credit for it.

Please lets not fill this thread with garbage. Its a 2grfe, because i wanted it, and if you dont like it, oh well, you are not paying for it, lol....

first things first, the engine needs to come from the bottom, it wont come from the top... it wont...

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there are some body modifications, and will get into details later in the swap... I have my reasons.

the swap is doable. and like I said, im willing to help personally to any member, that will do it.

Will be a slow guide, because i decided to do it all myself, with no help. I feel like this is more personal....

Will include more stuff in the days to come...

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just consider the 2grfe, its worth it. all aluminum...

This post has been edited by njccmd2002: Sep 22, 2017 - 7:15 PM

[njccmd2002]

It wont clear the regular hood, but it will clear a gt4 hood, with some modifications to be confirmed...

there is some tapping and drilling to be done to tranny, and engine.... (all is covered in MR2OC), and all credit goes to guoky...

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and how the pros do it to mount their engines to the tranny. using headless bolts

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This post has been edited by njccmd2002: Sep 20, 2017 - 10:00 PM

[Smaay]

if I recall, the 2GR bolts right up to the E153 with no drilling or mods. use ST205 mounts and you have 3 right off the bat.

Im surprised you cant get the engine installed from the top, I can pull the 3S-GTE and AWD trans out the top with no problem. and the 3MZ went in with no problems either.

I cant wait to see your finished product, ill never go the 2GR route unless an engine falls in my lap for free. im really happy with the 3MZ.

[njccmd2002]

The engine is easier to maneuver from bottom. Its bulky and it hits the frame several places. You have to disconnect a/c lines and ps lines. I have to cut the frame. And there is barely space for the regular rad fan. Its just to bulky. I dared not try and get it jammed.

I understand your point. Yes its expensive. And its not for everyone. By all means its not the best swap. But this is the last thing o do to my car and wanted to do something memorable. Lol, i still dont know if ill be able to clear the rack with the headers.

[njccmd2002]

ok few more bits of information...

you just cant go straight to make the engine mount. you need to have a temporary mount to give you an idea of what needs to be cut and addressed.. in the engine bay. i suggest like i said earlier to remove the power steering an lines, and the a/c lines, unless you want to run the risk of damage...

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not yet sure if there is enough space for guoky headers in the rear, they fit for the front..

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Smaay, the upper bolt needs to be tapped.. its smooth. and you have to grind the engine in certain areas to mate the transmission..

front bracket area

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rear bracket area

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oh and forgot, fan relays are no go, move them

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This post has been edited by njccmd2002: Sep 20, 2017 - 10:16 PM

[njccmd2002]

oh and if youre going to be grinding, protecto engino

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This post has been edited by njccmd2002: Sep 20, 2017 - 10:19 PM

[richee3]

Berto, you cray cray! Good progress with the 2GR so far. Very brave for tacking this swap in a Celica with virtually no support.

[njccmd2002]

Thanks, was hesitant to make a swap thread, but i said WTH...

anyways... here is why you shove this engine from the bottoms...

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this is the engine mounted, and on the temp mount...

but that is not a problem..

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obligatory swap picture...

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and finished..

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i had to pull this engine 6 times up and down, up down to measure the cutting and notching the frame...

i had to notch for the head, and steering pump....

this is another angle from the crossmember.. you barely have clearance..

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and

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a stupid trick to line up the engine i learned...

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and once again, out, awaiting flywheel, and i will clean the transmission. its dirty...

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and while that is out, this may get refreshed..

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still lots to do, and so little time...

This post has been edited by njccmd2002: Sep 20, 2017 - 10:55 PM

[Box]

Damn, that's a tight fit.

I can't wait to see it all buttoned up.

This post has been edited by Box: Aug 13, 2014 - 10:20 PM

[bloodMoney]

Love this. Great work Berto!

[enderswift]

You are living our collective dream Berto. Awesome work

This post has been edited by enderswift: Aug 14, 2014 - 9:47 AM

[Bitter]

[kevin311]

Glad you decided to make a thread. F*** the haters. The price tag on this deters me but I'm down for someone taking a crack at something new for the 6gc. I commend you though for doing this on your own. Can't wait to see and hear the end result. Nice work!

[njccmd2002]

thanks, no updates for now, except got the aluminum flywheel, and suspension parts, totaling 800 this month. so i fugured will wait next month, for more parts, and work with what i have. No rush to do this yet.

[Smaay]

keep up the good work and the updates

[presure2]

this thread is already so full of win, most people who see it wont even grasp how goddamn cool this is.
i cannot wait to see this car in person in a couple weeks!
sure, cost is thru the roof.
sure, gotta have balls big enough to modify the chassis to suit.
sure, this is gonna be the fu^king coolest v6 swap on this site by about 8 billion miles!

DOOO ITTTTT berto!!!!!!

[richee3]

Updates?

[FORGMANN]

I know many of you are think man this would be sweet turbo'ed and in a ST205
Wonder if you can use 4WD gearbox ? Below is your answer posted in July
Anyone from Russia or eastern Europe have any more details on swap?
i could not find any anywhere .. Those crazy Russians tuners
Do not post here if you do start a new thread .

Avensis (same chassis family as st246 Caldina and 1ST gen TC)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkstuZACBQI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsQv-1zZq9w

Berto
Once you get running and then get power hungry again afterwards
i will have extra TRD S/C waiting as i now have 2 .. We all know 276 whp is never enough HP!!

[njccmd2002]

haha, yeah!. gonna have to chop some hood!!

ill put some work in it tomorrow and friday. this is really slow......

too many things in right now...

[richee3]

It doesn't seem to me like there's a lot left. You pretty much have the mounting figured out, and that's a huge chunk of the work. After that you'll be able to send your wiring out, order and assemble your axles, mount everything up and plug it in, figure out radiator hoses, and turn the key. Any time you need a hand with this you've got my number! I work for free.