how to swap a 2grfe V6 into a st204, Toyota reliability, with less moving parts than a turbo |
how to swap a 2grfe V6 into a st204, Toyota reliability, with less moving parts than a turbo |
Oct 26, 2014 - 11:41 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 4, '12 From US Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
Easier? No. Better? Yes. Cheaper? Hell naw.
For this build the very least you should get is a Sport 1000 from Haltech. That's over $1200 right there. Make the stocker work for now and you could maybe later on use a standalone as a fuel/ignition controller for tuning purposes. A cheaper one, like a Megasquirt. -------------------- 1993 Celica GT Coupe - sold
1994 Celica GT Liftback |
Oct 26, 2014 - 1:23 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
1. yes if you live in an area that does not do obd2 checks. Just move further south. -------------------- 2001 Miata LS 5-speed
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Oct 26, 2014 - 2:09 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
But you won't pass OBD2 checks with a trans code stored...
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Oct 26, 2014 - 4:16 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
well unless you guys chime in (i can pm my paypal), lol, no standalone guys sorry. And as far as the obd codes, working on a solution, possible to get around that transmission codes.
However i dont live in an obd2 check area, so no real worry for the moment. I wont be spending money on tunes and dynos. period. but thanks for the encouragement. so far so much money invested on this, that not really looking to invest more than i need to.. This post has been edited by njccmd2002: Oct 26, 2014 - 4:23 PM -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
If you PM me and I dont respond, dont fret or cry. Im alive, better post your questions in the thread below, maybe I log back in 2grfe Swapped... Why I chose the 2GR, before you ask read here... A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within. @llamaraxing in Instagram is the best way to find me. I hardly log here anymore. |
Oct 26, 2014 - 4:26 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Just think though, you'll have the only one that we know of. That's exciting.
-------------------- 2001 Miata LS 5-speed
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Oct 27, 2014 - 6:50 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
well im going to post few pics here and there. obstacles to overcome....
DSCN1391 cut to this size to get more clearance DSCN1392 then see this.. DSCN1396 bend to make this.. DSCN1397 unfortunately that tab, holds the power steering lines and will have to be relocated. But to answer everyones questions, smaller bolt is no longer in the way ... DSCN1398 it does fit, and i have headers... (740 usd from Gouky) couple of other things that i have to work... there is no space if you use the regular fans.. no chance for the a/c lines, and will have to use a custom combo... DSCN1388 cant use the alternator with the stock fans and shrouds. need to get custom or creative.. DSCN1387 DSCN1390 relocate the dipstick, move it a little to the side DSCN1383 clearance with oil cooler. but this one is ok... DSCN1384 lower radiator hose, will probably have to come from the highlander, or a hybrid mix of both... because the celica hose interferes, so i need to get a hose union or something to mix em together DSCN1394 upper radiator hose needs to be cut just a tad, careful where u cut it, so that it does not rub with engine.. DSCN1386 relocate the fusebox, you almost most have to it would be in the way of the hose.. DSCN1389 relocate power steering bracket for the reservoir DSCN1393 then tackle the axle carrier bracket, going to have to weld something or go custom DSCN1400 DSCN1399 as it is, the engine is 1 inch lower than the beams, or 3sge... so long plastic covers...... or maybe they will fit, only future will tell.... DSCN1395 so if this is not a clear description of what needs to be done to the car, i dont know what is... This post has been edited by njccmd2002: Sep 21, 2017 - 12:51 AM -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
If you PM me and I dont respond, dont fret or cry. Im alive, better post your questions in the thread below, maybe I log back in 2grfe Swapped... Why I chose the 2GR, before you ask read here... A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within. @llamaraxing in Instagram is the best way to find me. I hardly log here anymore. |
Oct 27, 2014 - 9:54 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 10, '10 From MA Currently Offline Reputation: 37 (100%) |
Is the PS axle going to fit with the header there? It might be the angle of the picture, but it looks like a pretty close call.. Props on all the work though, absolutely amazing.
This post has been edited by mkernz22: Oct 27, 2014 - 9:54 AM |
Oct 27, 2014 - 11:45 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
it fits, it is proven by guoky... that was never an issue. but i know the pic looks bad...
-------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
If you PM me and I dont respond, dont fret or cry. Im alive, better post your questions in the thread below, maybe I log back in 2grfe Swapped... Why I chose the 2GR, before you ask read here... A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within. @llamaraxing in Instagram is the best way to find me. I hardly log here anymore. |
Oct 27, 2014 - 12:48 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
You must have the patience of a saint, I'd have set everything on fire by now.
-------------------- 2001 Miata LS 5-speed
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Oct 27, 2014 - 3:56 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 4, '12 From US Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
My recommendation is to take out that double core radiator, keep the stock fans and a stock radiator. A good quality replacement.
Since you're going N/A you won't need a huge radiator at all, especially since you're probably using a GT-4 hood to clear the engine, right? The stock radiator is good enough for a 3S-GTE GT-4, should be good enough for a 2GR N/A. I'm actually considering removing mine and replacing it with a stock one, since I never really saw any huge improvements on cooling, my temperature problems turned out to be tuning related. -------------------- 1993 Celica GT Coupe - sold
1994 Celica GT Liftback |
Oct 27, 2014 - 4:55 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
well some guys are running bigger radiators, since the engine requires higher pressure radiator cap. I had a stock radiator, and traded for this aluminum, in the future i may need it if i decide to supercharge.. however, i already have a solution planned....
-------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
If you PM me and I dont respond, dont fret or cry. Im alive, better post your questions in the thread below, maybe I log back in 2grfe Swapped... Why I chose the 2GR, before you ask read here... A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within. @llamaraxing in Instagram is the best way to find me. I hardly log here anymore. |
Nov 4, 2014 - 9:06 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
just as suspected.
ps lines nightmare, A/c nightmare. I have to reroute these lines, as the mount is in the way.. and the a/c lines are to close to engine.. -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
If you PM me and I dont respond, dont fret or cry. Im alive, better post your questions in the thread below, maybe I log back in 2grfe Swapped... Why I chose the 2GR, before you ask read here... A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within. @llamaraxing in Instagram is the best way to find me. I hardly log here anymore. |
Nov 4, 2014 - 9:17 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Who needs A/C in a convertible anyway? What real man needs power steering? See, just solved your problems.
-------------------- 2001 Miata LS 5-speed
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Nov 4, 2014 - 10:06 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 13, '10 From Greenville, SC Currently Offline Reputation: 50 (100%) |
Can you do stainless flex hoses? I don't know, I'm just asking! I replaced the clutch hose in my Z with a stainless flexible deal. Well... I ADDED the clutch line since it didn't actually have one to begin with!
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Nov 6, 2014 - 2:53 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Electric power steering man...steal the system from a MR-2! You can mount the pump wherever and plumb the lines as needed.
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Nov 6, 2014 - 10:00 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
i tought about it, even found several sites, and swaps for it. cost is about the same, but i have the pump, the belt, the pulleys, and notched the frame.
so the easiest way is to route the lines different ways, easy peasy. Working this week, so no updates for now. just more work but i got it sorted out... -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
If you PM me and I dont respond, dont fret or cry. Im alive, better post your questions in the thread below, maybe I log back in 2grfe Swapped... Why I chose the 2GR, before you ask read here... A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within. @llamaraxing in Instagram is the best way to find me. I hardly log here anymore. |
Nov 12, 2014 - 9:28 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
i have done several things but this takes the cake...
today i learned the wrong way, that i got a harness from the lexus es350. turns out the engine harness is not same as the engine room harness. Purchased the harness in june, and I TOUGHT IT HAS both ecu clips to use for the rav 4, however, silly me, no engine harness. turns out they are 2 different things. somehow the engine harness connects at the fuse box. lol..... at a great cost.... 170 $$$ YIKES when i saw headlights attached and yellow split looming with sensors, i said oh, oh... well this harness has the small ecu plug 90980-12461 with wires, and a pedal connector 90980-12303 attached to it. guess they are separated harness... I need both housings... well i found today in a japanese site 90980-12396 is the number for the big housing.... Im eeying plugs on ebay, and made offer, if all else fails.. This really sets me back a whole deal... i was ready to start wiring.... And funny thing, this harness has like 3 more plugs that can be used for the pedals. Probably sell them with pigtails and recoup money that way... it has the fuse box, and smog sensor and airbag sensor :mad2:mad2 none of which i need. -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
If you PM me and I dont respond, dont fret or cry. Im alive, better post your questions in the thread below, maybe I log back in 2grfe Swapped... Why I chose the 2GR, before you ask read here... A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within. @llamaraxing in Instagram is the best way to find me. I hardly log here anymore. |
Nov 13, 2014 - 8:00 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
ok so to give an update. and for the records.
im going to have to make a hybrid harness from the original highlander, which has 5 plug ecu, with the harness of the 2 plug ecu. I have the smaller plug, and may have to order the bigger plug.. DSCN1471 es350 harness, not engine, (has only one plug) DSCN1470 need this... 90980-12396 also spent several days. with this.. (been done by a few at the mr2oc swaps.... DSCN1451 DSCN1452 DSCN1454 DSCN1455 DSCN1458 DSCN1465 did not take pics of the new parts, but there were a few to mount the belt, some bearings, and bolts.. DSCN1461 modified brackets for the power steering rack... DSCN1466 made a mock of the rack... DSCN1460 since lines are going behind, need a custom line for the high pressure side... removed the vacuum lined, and hacked it in pieces to use for the low pressure ps line also mocked the low pressure ps line.. DSCN1469 used a torch to bend DSCN1467 DSCN1468 it has some leaks, but its ok. it will be fixed... This post has been edited by njccmd2002: Sep 21, 2017 - 1:37 AM -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
If you PM me and I dont respond, dont fret or cry. Im alive, better post your questions in the thread below, maybe I log back in 2grfe Swapped... Why I chose the 2GR, before you ask read here... A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within. @llamaraxing in Instagram is the best way to find me. I hardly log here anymore. |
Nov 13, 2014 - 10:35 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Fill the tubing with sand then cap the ends and then bend, or you can freeze water inside and then bend it before it melts.
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Nov 13, 2014 - 10:38 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
nice tips, but i already bent it, wish i knew. the leaks are because it has been welded too.
-------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
If you PM me and I dont respond, dont fret or cry. Im alive, better post your questions in the thread below, maybe I log back in 2grfe Swapped... Why I chose the 2GR, before you ask read here... A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within. @llamaraxing in Instagram is the best way to find me. I hardly log here anymore. |
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