Teh Official "Dude Where's My Forum?" Thread, Brought to you by the minds of Box, and her fiancée, Lorelei Options

[Bitter]

Cause you're gonna be so gung ho about rebuilding the engine every 30 to 60K miles and dealing with it flooding when the compression gets low again.

[Box]

Actually if you maintain it and operate it properly you can get 100K+ even out of the RENESIS motors, the big problem is finding a good used one. Really the thing to do would be to get one already blown or sick for cheap then rebuild it, then you know what you're working with. All that as it may though that's really what it'd take to have another car I'd like as much as what I already have, within the same price constraints anyway. I need exhaust notes to caress and serenade my ears, it's just a big part of driving for me. As much of an audiophile and as much as I love music when I'm spiritedly driving the stereo hardly goes over 10, if it's on at all. An I4 short of supersport bikes or being turbocharged just makes me cringe and sometimes vomit, most V6 are bearable without turbos but some are just as nasty as an I4, and most I6 sound ok without a turbo. A V8 can sound bad too don't get me wrong, I'm looking at you truck owners with over-sized straight pipes on your low compression low lift V8, but any cars that have one and are worth owning they sound good. Rotaries sound so motorsport though if that makes any sense, kinda like a supersport I4. Meh...

[Box]

I dunno, after researching all there is to search I think the hardest part of a RX-8 will be finding a good one. Being the rotary compression checker is like $300, or it's like $100-150 to have it tested at a dealership. The high maintenance aspect isn't so bad since I'll do good to put 5,000 miles on it a year, if that. Really the big thing with them it seems is frequent oil changes and making sure it's topped off, some kind of premix to help further with seal lubrication, making sure the oil and coolant stays cool and frequent coolant changes, and then changing the ignition coils and plugs every 30,000 miles or sooner. That and never beat on it cold, which isn't good for any engine, and then rev it out occasionally when warm to reduce carbon buildup. The only other thing is the cat melting, generally from bad ignition, which people usually put on a "race pipe" but I can't deal with raw exhaust. So only thing I'd know is maybe a high flow cat further downstream to keep it from melting, but also keep me from getting a headache. Of course this is provided I have to sell the Firebird. I really can't think of any other cars... Maybe a BMW Z3 or Porsche Boxster, but honestly I'm not sure if those are any better than a RX-8 and especially the Boxster. Well that and there's the 3000GT VR4, but already swore those off and not sure it's any better than a RX-8 either. I suppose an IS300 would be the reliable and responsible compromise, since the 2JZ-GE sounds sorta good if you keep a cat on it.

The 2ZZ-GE sounds fairly good for a car's I4, but the only thing it came in with RWD and a LSD was the Elise. Then swapping a MR-S is out of the equation. Meh... WORK LEG WORK SO I CAN KEEP MY V8. Right now the LTD is in my way so I can't even roll the Firebird out, he replaced the intake and carburetor to see if that'll get it running better but he hasn't finished getting the rest of it done like timing etc...

[Bitter]

Yea I never hear about any Renisis lasting more than 60K without loosing compression and needing a rebuild, not to mention the issues with the HVAC panels they had through the years on those cars. 2ZZ swap MR2 isn't a terrible project to have your brother help with under your supervision. It's more or less a straight swap and the C60 has a LSD available. You'd love the car, the clutch in the MR2 is pretty easy from what I remember, I assume it would be the same for a stock clutch with the 2ZZ and C60.

They did make a SMT for the MR2...but I think they're rare in the US and I'm not sure how reliable they were.

[Box]

I guess it's a mixed bag, there's a story out there of a RX-8 that had 160K miles on the original engine with nothing being done to it aside from oil changes as they were clueless to how properly maintain and operate it that came around the forum asking why their car wouldn't start all of a sudden. Turned out to just be flooded, and that was the first time they had it happen that they were aware of. Yeah I also saw something on that about the HVAC system, but they had a DIY thread though I didn't open it.

Hmmm, that is true... Though isn't swapping the C60 or C160 into the MR-S more of an ordeal than swapping in the 2ZZ-GE? From a quick look apparently the C56 also had a couple LSD options available. Or maybe it was just the C160 for some reason, I seem to recall something along those lines somewhere. Which looking around apparently there's some decent support for the 2ZZ-GE via camshafts and tuning. I think a cammed 2ZZ with tune and proper exhaust would sound pretty good. I'll have to look more deeply into it, how hard and expensive it'll be. To me the 2ZZ sounds a good bit better, and more like a supersport, than the Honda engines oddly enough. Though I know Yamaha did help with the head extensively, so that's probably why. If only the 2ZZ would work in longitudinal layouts, since no one has bothered making it adapt like they have with the Honda K series.

[Bitter]

It'll bolt to the same transmissions that the A series bolt to in RWD since A series mate to C series transmissions, as far as I know. AE86 with 2ZZ would be a drift monster.

[Box]

Hmm, I remember what it is now with the MR-S on transmissions. Getting everything set for being in the MR-S versus a FWD car, so unless you use a 6-speed from a JDM or Euro MR-S it's an ordeal of sorts.

Also interesting, so I suppose whatever transmission the AE86 used then. Though still a matter of figuring out mounting it longitudinally, and probably lots of other small things like the starter and oil pan and maybe the oil pick-up, etc... I did come across this though looking for info on swapping the MR-S: https://www.monkeywrenchracing.com/product/...d-transmission/

For the low low price of $5,000 plus header, intake, and clutch kit as well as lots of other small miscellaneous things. If only the Miata engine didn't sound like arse like most every other I4 or Toyota was cool and put in a 2ZZ-GE into the MR-S from the factory. Or rotaries were reliable, or my clutch was lighter, or if I were rich and could solve all these other problems. Meh, hopefully can get the LTD out of my way tomorrow so will know what I'm doing.

[Box]

Nothing like finding out after the fact through the grapevine your grandfather had acute adrenal failure. He's seemingly ok now, thankfully a friend of his that lives nearby went over to check on him and found him disoriented and stuck on the deck outside of the house... To top it off apparently my uncle that took him to the hospitals etc... decided it wasn't important enough to let the rest of the family know, but could say something to my father about it and he's the one that said something to my brother when my brother ran into him yesterday... The screwed up part is this was right after my grandfather's birthday and I wished him a happy birthday as always, but I had this sinking feeling that this would be my last time to do so... and it would've been if not for the friend finding him... So now I feel guilty about not saying something. As silly as it sounds, and even as hard as it is for me to believe, I seem to have this knack for knowing things before they happen. It's happened too many times now, rather it just be a feeling or a premonition dream... So of course spending the night crying and upset because of the whole situation there, mostly worried about my grandfather but then furious at my uncle... Ever since my grandmother passed the whole family has fallen apart, I miss the family gatherings on my mom's side... OH and if that weren't enough guess what else I find out through the grapevine, my cousin second oldest of the grandchildren behind me has Parkinson's... Ugh... I have a headache...

[Box]

So after looking more in depth you can use the 5-speed of the MR-S with the 2ZZ-GE, but because of the gear spacing you fall out of lift on every shift... So you can use the Celica 6-speed with some reconfiguration or just get a JDM or EDM MR-S 6-speed. Then getting a LSD into it if not already equipped... Best case scenario find a Celica GT-S that's been wrecked for under $2,000 to get everything but even still then you're $500-1,000 for a LSD... Maybe could find a MR-S with a sick motor for under $3,000. Then it's a matter of swapping it, don't have anything here to accomplish that. Not sure if could swap it at his work or not, since everything to do it would be there including a lift and power-train cradle and would make life immensely easier. Not to mention air tools and air conditioning. Even then very easily looking into around $5,000+ and not taking into consideration things like clutch kit, timing kit, etc... If it needs brakes, struts, tires, etc... Honestly the best thing to do probably would be just throw a LSD into the 5-speed and just live with the 1ZZ, but in that instance just get a Miata.

My brother said just find someone with a LS1 car to trade, but problem there is that the LS1 Firebirds are worth more and I don't think there are many like me that prefer the LT-1 cars over the LS1 ones. That and I find the LS1 cars outright obnoxious looking and good luck finding a hardtop, reason I bought what I did... If I had money falling out of my ass would just LS3 swap it and convert my T-56 to mate to it. Because I need another 150 horsepower to never use. I searched until I was blue in the face on converting the LT-1 to a hydraulic TOB and push clutch, but there's just nothing out there since for most it's not an issue. I've been waiting to try and see if I can drive it up and down the road, but the damn LTD is still in the way since he's yet to get around to it. I tried sitting in the car and using the clutch while charging the battery, and it seemed like maybe between relearning to walk and change in medication that might be able to do it. I really hope so, since there's really nothing else out there that I can afford short of the RX-8 that's just probably not a good idea.

[Bitter]

I know someone selling a Pontiac GXP drivetrain cheap (FWD 5.3 LS+4T80E), that would make one SICK Fiero!

[Box]

A LS4 Fiero with a manual would be the bee's knees, though it'd have to be in an '88 Fiero GT so it has bespoke suspension designed by Lotus and not rehashed Citation and Chevette parts. Then again a BEAMS swap into a non-turbo second gen MR2 should be fairly straight forward, though not sure on how well the gear ratios match up and it'd need a LSD added. That or the 1MZ if it's not too big of a hassle on the MR2 versus the Celica. This is why I bought what I did, it was as close to perfect as I could get for the money even despite the dinosaur rear suspension. If money were no issue, within reason, I'd probably just get a C6 Z06 provided the clutch on them is as light as the C5 Z06. What's funny is the C5 Z06 has a lighter clutch than the standard C5, since they redesigned it just for the Z06. Though at the end of the day if worse comes to worst I'd be content with a NB2 6-speed Miata, it has enough power for 95% of my driving anyway. I just can't stand the ****ing exhaust note, someone needs to develop a 2ZZ-GE swap for the Miata.

[Box]

I think there's what might be a mid 70's Corolla coupe down the road in front of a Servco, from the road it looks to be in good shape. Keep meaning to stop and look, though not like anything would come of it but would still be nifty to check out. Doesn't seem like it moves from the same spot, so not sure what's the story on it. Then again one of these days won't be in the middle of going somewhere in a timed fashion so can stop and see.

[Bitter]

but why? they drive like a cheap car from the 70's...poorly. people romanticize them like they do the old air cooled VW's and Porsches, they weren't that fantastic they just have fantastic memories of them.

I've been sick for like...a while but didn't really know it. I had one sick day last week, felt great the next day, then slowly slid back into feeling like ****, had chills and headache and body ache and lethargy again on wednesday, took off thursday and friday (which is today, I have lost all concept of time). had a fever up to 103 on wednesday night for about 6 hours, then hung our around 102 for 24 hours along with a terrible sinus migraine the whole time, gave up and took some nyquil which muted the migraine somewhat and made me feel better (but did not put me asleep, I hate that feeling) but also tanked my body temp to around 96.5 from 101.7 in about 90 minutes so that was fun too. Oh and I've had that terrible bitter taste in my mouth from being sick so everything tastes terrible like I've been sucking off a can of air duster like I owed it money. And I can't remember simple things I've done. Thought I lost my wallet, I had just put it in my pocket I guess except I have no clue that I did that. At least chocolate and sweet stuff tastes good...and Erin hasn't murdered me yet but I wouldn't be surprised if I get smothered in my sleep tonight.

[Box]

I know that, would just be nifty to look at that's all since I don't think I've ever seen one in person. Most every old car is overrated when it comes to performance to dollar, but that doesn't mean they're not fun to look at it when other people own them. Honestly the 90's to early 00's is that sweet spot at the moment, and I'm well aware of it. That and I need something comfortable and remotely safe, and I hate carburetors. Trust me, I have no plans of buying anything pre 90's.

Seems like something is going around, mom has been fighting being sick for awhile and had a real bad fever into the 103-104 range a few days ago. I always eat spicy stuff when I feel any kind of respiratory thing coming on. Between the high vitamin C of peppers and keeping things constantly cleared out, I guess it helps to stop it from getting worse. You might find some spearmint and peppermint candies to help. Mmmm, menthol. Hope you get to feeling better soon.

[Bitter]

Thanks, I am feeling better and my taste is starting to return, but as I was in the brightly lit hot and steamy bathroom I started to feel a bit dizzy and light headed when moving and started getting some shimmering zig zag pulsating throbbing visual phenomenon obscuring the right peripheral vision, google says it's a kind of migraine symptom called 'kaleidoscope vision' which is new to me, I've never had that before so that's cool I guess. Pretty trippy looking except that my head is starting to hurt some now. Oh yea full migraine yeeehaw mother****er, good thing I downed two excederin with some warm cider.

[Box]

That's good, glad to hear are doing better. Yes, migraine auras are all kinds of fun. If you could get a hold of Maxalt or Imitrex that'd knock it out, but those are prescription only for chronic migrainers. Not sure if there's anything better than Excedrin that's OTC.

[Bitter]

Imitrex did little to nothing for mine to be honest, but the dose may have been too low. 2 excedrin or 30ml of nyquil and 75 to 150mg of benedryl usually does it.

[navseal345]

Cream of Tartar for headaches. Some on your tongue and hold it to the roof of your mouth. Mom read it somewhere recently, she tried it & it worked for her.

Or maybe it was under the tongue? I dunno.

This post has been edited by navseal345: Oct 13, 2018 - 7:30 PM

[Bitter]

I heard it's a whole kosher dill up your peehole and then leave a cut onion on your night stand.

[Box]

Oh yeah, sometimes the Goody's powder works best as an OTC though it's nasty and needs followed up with a drink. I don't recall Imitrex doing much either, but Maxalt generally works and if you catch it early enough will usually stop it.

Not sure about a kosher dill in your urethra, but I can think of other holes to put it into though that're more fun.

In other news brother keeps looking at RX-7 and RX-8, so I dunno maybe some kind of collaboration is in order. I buy it and pay for the parts, he does all the work. In exchange he can drive it so long as I don't need it. Everyone wins. That or maybe he's thinking about selling the LTD and Suzuki again to get one, which would get him a project car he's more interested in and rid of a bike that always gets passed up on now that he has the ZX-6R.