 Fastest 1/4 mile times, screw 0-60 that means nothing in a race |
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 Feb 5, 2004 - 10:52 PM
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Enthusiast  Joined Jan 7, '04 From Toronto Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
Sorry if this ahs been posted before.. but...
Wanna know all your guys fastest 1.4 mile times? Proof of it would be cool But dont worryif you dont have any, I think you're all pretty honest folks! 
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Feb 5, 2004 - 11:02 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Dallas, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Um, yah, it does...it means a lot more than 1/4 mile as far as I'm concerned. 1/4 times are a lot of car and a little of the driver. 0-60 and 60' times are a lot more indicatave of the drivers skill than 1/4 mile. The launch also factors in quite a bit to the 1/4 time. Anyway...never had my celica to the track, but I've done an estimated 15.80 based on the data acquisition but its probably a little optimistic. I've done 11.50s @ 119mph in our old drag car and 12.0's @ 119 on my bike (never could launch it very well). |
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Feb 5, 2004 - 11:12 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 7, '04 From Toronto Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I dont wanan get into an arguement here but what about awd? is that skill? And what if your racing a RWD car that has better off the line traction than front? Is he a better driver than you? No of course not The thing most ppl argue about when they talk cars is 0-60 time.. well im sorry to say but you dont win a race by having the ebst 0-60 its the best 1/4 mile that wins.. I dont care much how fast my car gets to 60 because hardly any races jsut stop at 60, especially on the street. Point is, to me 1/4 mile time is more imporant overall, especially in a street race.. and if you notice in my quote i said NOTHING about driver skill. I personally think that to get a good 1.4 mile time you need a good 0-60 time anyway, so you have to have as much, if not more skill to run a good 1/4 mile This post has been edited by integra_killer: Feb 5, 2004 - 11:14 PM |
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Feb 5, 2004 - 11:48 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 10, '03 From FL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
see your point is pointless. spedtoe races. and not illegally on the street, he actually races his celica. hes talking about skilled drivers who race, not punk kids who put on a 20 filter and go runnin 1/4 bragging times... my 2 cents |
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Feb 5, 2004 - 11:50 PM
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 Administrator Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
You just contradicted yourself.  Anyway, my fastest time was a 17.7 with bad compression due to piston rings I believe, a slipping clutch, and a dying second gear synchro. -------------------- New Toyota project coming soon...
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Feb 6, 2004 - 12:23 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 7, '04 From Toronto Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
1/4 MILE TIMES IS WHAT WINS A RACE
DOSENT MATTER IF ITS ON THE STREET OR NOT! NOT 0-60 ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN COULD TELL YOU THAT! btw speedtoe put words into my mouth i never said anything about driver skill at all and no i didnt contradict myself im jsut saying that 1.4 mile time takes more skill because inorder to get a good 1.4 mile time you need a good 0-60 time as well.. This post has been edited by integra_killer: Feb 6, 2004 - 12:24 AM |
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Feb 6, 2004 - 12:24 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 9, '03 From St. Louis Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
well, i agree with spedtoe, but I think part of the reason our 0-60 isnt so great(in teh gt) is because our 2nd gear is only able to bring the car to 55mph, so if our powerband was a little higher and the red line was pushed back a little the car would have a better 0-60 time. simply because we could reach 60mph w/out shifting a second tome into 3rd gear. So in that aspect, the 0-60 speed dosent bother me, but it does still matter in a race
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Feb 6, 2004 - 12:27 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 9, '03 From St. Louis Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
they both matter, ****, because, you don't know where your gonna stop in a street race, they are both arbitrary measurements of speed when compared to an unmeasured street race
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Feb 6, 2004 - 12:42 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 7, '04 From Toronto Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
CAN WE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE GET BACK TO BEST 1/4 MILE TIME RUNS!! WELL?? |
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Feb 6, 2004 - 12:56 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
That is very true. Hondata makes a Program Flash for the Civic Si Hatchbacks ECU's, which gurantee a 1 second decrease of their 0-60 times, baically because they can redline at 8100 instead of 7000. In other words, they can do 60 in second gear without shifitng to 3rd. Pretty sweet... I'm willing to guess the same for both the Celica GT's and ST's. As for my 1/4 mile... I'll scan my timeslips tomorrow... but this is basically what it reads... Reaction: .700 I1: 2.462 I2: 6.989 I3: 10.757 MPH (I3): 64.863 I4: .000 E.T. : 16.784 MPH: 81.201 =D This post has been edited by Kwanza26: Feb 6, 2004 - 1:00 AM -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
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Feb 6, 2004 - 1:15 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '04 From LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
(Don't want to admit doing this ever.. but.. haha) In my auto, putting the pedal down (just iron footing it) brings my first gear change at 40, and my second gear change wayy later, around 70. Not good for the car, but it's not hitting the red either... I'm pretty sure of this, because compared to the third and first gear, my second gear sucks. |
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Feb 6, 2004 - 2:58 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 22, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Ok, Speed toe is so right!!
integra_killer, you may be right for only the 1/4 mile, but [B]IF YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT IT, does the 1/4 mile matter as much when you are coming out of a hairpin corner or even just a regular turn. I would be more worried about my acceleration out of the turn. THE ONLY RACES THAT PROBABLY WILL HAVE 1/4 MILE TIMES TO MATTER IS THE 1/4 DRAG RACING. AND EVEN THAT NEEDS THE 0-60 BECAUSE IT MEANS YOU CAN GET TO 60MPH FASTER THAN OTHERS DEPENDING ON HOW GOOD OF A DRIVER YOU ARE. And for RWD, AWD, and FWD, if a RWD has a better off the line traction then your FWD, then you got to use your skills as a driver to accomodate for the traction problem. KNOW when to shift, KNOW why its a traction problem, USE YOUR SKILLS AS A DRIVER to out drive the RWD. However, if you know what car you are going to race and you know the 0-60 times, then you can figure out if you can win or not in a street race which technically doesn't have to be 1/4 mile. It can be roll on race on the highway or a shorter distance light to light, or on a mountain pass, etc. BUT REALLY think about it, if traction is a concern for you with 0-60 times, remember that you can get a LSD. But my concern would be more on what the guy next to me has in his engine bay, and not if his traction is good. Because if he is really going to race like for say money, he's got to know how to control his traction or he's got a damn good tranny. Skills has to do WITH everything, drifthing needs skills, shifting needs skills, knowing not to race a faster car is smart and skillful. Unless its just for fun... |
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Feb 6, 2004 - 9:25 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Dallas, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Haha, you've obviously never driven one! My boss has a 600hp AWD Porsche (modded 911/X50) and I can tell you from experience, its real easy to run 12.20s in it with 2.3 60' times, but its real real hard to run in the 11s. In theory that car should pull 1.6 60' times but I know several good drivers that have tried and nobody has done it yet. It doesn't take much if any skill to roll out of the hole and floor it. But anyway, we weren't going to argue....anybody else have times? |
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Feb 8, 2004 - 11:22 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 8, '02 From Bel Air, MD, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
R/T---1.588
60'---2.389 330---6.824 1/8---10.509 MPH---66.94 1000---13.687 1/4---16.372 MPH---84.47 At Cecil Drag Way when my car was stock with only a TRD short shifter in her....While im on this subject Who from maryland would like to make a trip to cecil drag way for a 6GC meet up there??? Would be kinda fun to all go up there and race and compair times.....just a thought.....PM me if anyones interested ...and it dont have to be cecil dragway.....could be anywhere in MD. Just the closest place to me. I Guess this would be a good idea to throw out when spring nears....so just keep it in the back of ur guys heads....ill make a post shortly as well.... This post has been edited by PaulGT: Feb 8, 2004 - 11:23 PM |
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Feb 8, 2004 - 11:31 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
1/4 mile is bogus... try taking a 1/4 mile then making a right hander into turn one... thats F***ing racing... 1/4 mile is for hot rodders.
and BTW... you arent going to get many 1/4 mile times out of a bunch of 6gc owners, cuz they realize the car isnt ment for a dragstrip. those who do probably just went for an open track day to have some fun. there are very few, if any, purpose built 6gc cars for streight line. its either autox, or cruisin... mainly cruisin, which is what is so fun to do in a great looking under powered automobile. --------------------  Believer, you'll leave her, in leaving them all No but I don't buy it Like anything you do, as anyone you are Cause I'm... Ten Speed, of God's Blood & Burial |
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Feb 9, 2004 - 12:32 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '02 From Corona & Vallejo, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I think I posted my best timeslip about 3 times already... yes... this has been discussed before... you coulda saved your self from all this heat if you actually searched... 
This post has been edited by boosted_K2: Feb 9, 2004 - 5:09 PM |
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Feb 9, 2004 - 2:23 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 22, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Man, i just realized the same exact thing the other day. I took down all the future engine mods on my profile. Imma go for handling. |
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Feb 9, 2004 - 4:09 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jul 14, '03 From New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
So far my best has been a 13.32. Thats with the orginal turbo setup. I have a hybrid ct26 on my car now, so hopefully next time i get down the strip i will be close to,if not in, the 12's
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Feb 9, 2004 - 4:11 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 14, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
W/O swap or turbo most celica 1/4 miles are poor even with a great driver. But the best mod you can ever do is learn how to drive the car. I never took mine to the track out of dissapointment of the time.
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Feb 9, 2004 - 4:27 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From ny to philly Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Ray, I tried clicking the search link in your post, but it didn't do anything. Please help
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