 1.8 7AFE TURBO??, "how-to" |
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 Mar 12, 2004 - 2:01 AM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Feb 20, '04 From Washington Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
I remember hearing that someone was going to do a write up on turboing this engine! Is it going to happen?? How much?? When will it be posted?? Anyone?
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Mar 12, 2004 - 9:31 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Dallas, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Zips is doing most of it, I'm helping out with part of it. I think its going to be a while before its up. At least a few weeks, maybe a month.
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Mar 12, 2004 - 9:53 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 25, '03 From cranston RI Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
and its not going to be cheap.... im coincidering saving up alllll spring/summer/fall to do maybe as a winter project...
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Mar 12, 2004 - 12:15 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 23, '03 From Miami,FL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
shouldn't it be not too expensive? like 3g's or under rite?...oh yea and if its done right the firts time lol
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Mar 12, 2004 - 12:31 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 25, '03 From cranston RI Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i could be wrong, but from what ive heard, you can do it right for $2k... but to me, thats "not cheap"... i was just mainly addressing people who think they can do it for under $1000... -------------------- |
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Mar 12, 2004 - 12:54 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 20, '04 From Washington Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
$1000 or under is perfect! We don't need big honkin turbos in these engines anyway! Something that will boost us just a tad to get that extra edge over the compitition!
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Mar 12, 2004 - 12:55 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '02 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
As long as he puts what kind of 4ag pistons, and the part numbers he has, I'll be happy.
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Mar 12, 2004 - 2:29 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Dallas, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
HAHAHAHA. Thats a funny joke! You were joking? Right? I used to think this also. It could probably be done for a cheaper than I did it but its probably going to be pushing hard it to get it under 2k and getting it under 1k isn't going to happen. Granted, most of the stuff I have is really high quality and you could opt for less. There are a lot of parts you can use off other cars that you can get for almost nothing at the junk yard but be prepared to spend lots and lots of time researching and searching for the parts. Heres just an idea of where I'm at (not including the other engine and tranny I'm building): $2250 All the stuff I bought from Charlie Intercooler Turbo Oil line Injectors Fuel pump Charge piping BOV Wastegate Manifold $300 SAFC2 $300 Gages $130 Boost controller $225 RRFPR $50 Turbo flange material for dowpipe $22 Wastegate flange $15 Oil manifold $10 Weld fitting for oil pan $freebie Turbo drain line (from work) $freebie misc AN fittings (from work) $freebie porting on exhaust mani, turbo, and intake manifold Thats over $3300 and I'm sure there are a lot of little things I'm forgetting and there are still a few things to purchse...the largest of which is the tubing and fittings for the downpipe and exhaust which will probably be $400 or so. I'm not happy with the intercooler I have, so that will get upgraded soon, after everything is working. I also don't like the charge piping, its steel and way too heavy so that will eventually get upgraded. I'm building a new engine, tranny, and differential so theres a lot more money. Also keep in mind that I'm doing a lot of this myself and have the use of hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of machines, welders, and tools at my disposal. Not having that stuff would cost me a lot more. Places I could have saved money and sacrificed quality: Downpipe and exhaust (don't have to be stainless, could be cheaper aluminized steel) BOV (use junkyard bosch valve from turbo porsche 944, about $50 new, cheaper used) Wastegate (could have used internal wastegate with turbo) Almost new t3/t4 (could have used junkyard t3 ~$250 in good condition) Could have bought used safc instead of safc2 (I really don't think the knock detection is much good, the 8 point safc would be ok for lower power levels but the 12 (safc2) is nicer for more) Could have bought cheaper gages (but you're really skimping on important stuff here) |
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Mar 12, 2004 - 5:52 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 28, '02 From Europe, Lithuania Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
ok, if SpeedToe done this, i will folow to you guys get the idea of the 7A turbo stuff... Its not cheap at all (i used to think that i will get everythin under the grand or so, but...), and most of thing im trying to get are used or atleast im searching for the cheapest prices, and i have some huge discaunt on some thing, but anyway, here we go...
Garett T3 from Lancia Delta - 100$ Garett T3 hotpart from 97Sccelica (thanks buddy  ) - 50$Turbo rebuild - 150$ Turbo manifold - 200$ Triple metal head gasket custom build - 50$ 4AGZE pistons - 120$ custom build 4AGZE pistons rings - 50$ second piston ring didnt matched the piston, so piston regrind - 20$ crank balancing - 10$ (he he got the great deal) Pistons, rods balancing - free, did this my self custom oil lines/drain lines - 70$ oil feed/drain flanges - 20$ (did this my self) New clutch - 50$ resurfaced flywheel - 20$ Greddy profec B boost controler - 200$ (got the great deal from my feature sponsors) Greddy type S BOV - 150$ (same deal from the sponsors) Aeromotive RR FPR - 140$ (smae deal here  )OBX gauges - 100$ Injectors from supra - 80$ GT4 Fuel pump - 50$ GT4 MAP - free (thanks to the Edo) Oil Catch can - 15$ (did this my self) FMIC - 150$ (original Starion IC) FMIC inlet/outlet welding - 20$ FMIC pipes from SSteel - 60$ Silicon couplers/silicon vacum houses - 50$ Down pipe - 20$ (will do this my self) Custom build distributor for Oil presure/Oiltemp gauge - 50$ Apexi SAFC - 300$ (bought about year ago, so i payd kinda big $) And all the other smal thing that i will need or bought that i can remember clearly bout 100$ so in total: 2395$ AND STILL AINT FINISHED... The whole set-up will run me about 3000$ And most of the stuff im doing my self... And ofcorse hundreds of hours colectind neede parts and gathering INFO from all the places... So be prepared for everything, cuz you may brake stuff, you can do somthing wrong and ETC.... -------------------- Ex celica owner - just a guy from other side of the pond...
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Mar 12, 2004 - 6:19 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 23, '03 From Miami,FL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
k sothis is a pricey project to everyone lol...ahh that means more savin up
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Mar 12, 2004 - 8:04 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Dallas, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I just priced the materials for my exhaust today.....wow. Its going to cost me just over $600 in materials for the entire exhaust from the turbo back. Its going to be completely 304 stainless mandrel bends and high quality size transitions. The turbine outlet is 2 1/8 with a 4" long megaphone transition up to 3" followed by a 90deg bend to go down the side of the motor. I'll be CNC machining the turbo flange out of 1/2" stainless. That bitch is never going to leak! I'll also be using V-band clamps instead of flanges for all the connections. The wastegate tubing is 1 3/8 IIRC and will re-enter the main exhaust stream somewhere towards the bottom of the car. I decided the divorced wastegate would be too loud. I can always build some flanges and blockoff plates later to make it divorced for track days or whatever.
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