WTB: ST205 Braided Brake Lines Options

[83841]

In search for ST205 Braided Brake Lines or if you have a set of C-ONE Braided Brake Lines CH4700-ST205 please let me know.

Thanks

[The_enD]

People have had these bursting while driving, it's how the superstrut is and it's movement, just get OEM lines.

[BonzaiCelica]

Ha this guy asked for c-one

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=95672

[83841]

People have had these bursting while driving, it's how the superstrut is and it's movement, just get OEM lines.

I have OEM lines but the brake pedal is spongy.......Yes I bled the system with two people and yes i also reverse bled the system.....I also rebuilt all the calipars with new seals and pistons......Was going to rebuild the brake master cylinder and figure to replace the lines while at it.... hopefully that will resolve my problem........

I did see that other post of Safebrake lines from Australia but not to sure of its reputation....I heard HEL are the ones that burst.....and Goodridge only offers ST202 version.....but its for Mcphearson and not SuperStruts..

This post has been edited by 83841: Jul 14, 2015 - 1:05 PM

[Nial]

I wouldn't use braided lines on superstrut suspension. The lines need to be able to twist, by the nature of their design braided lines are not able to. OEM lines are the way to go. I have seen quite a few braided lines split from various manufacturers, and trust me when I say that being in a car when braided lines fail is not fun as the failure tends to be pretty catastrophic.

[BonzaiCelica]

The only line to turn is the soft line but how much. Really its going to break?

[Nial]

Well nothing is certain., the twisting force placed upon them is significant. I know of one person who has had no problems with braded lines but they were modified (I don't know how) .........they tend to break where the line meets end/banjo joint. The rubber lines twist, and being rubber they cope with it with ease, braided lines are made of nylon and have virtually zero ability to twist. Also OEM lines tend to give you a warning of failure before they give up totally, giving you chance to replace them safely. Braided lines just go and as they are covered in a stainless overbrade, you can't see any indication of them beginning to go!

Braided lines get fitted to race cars and are checked after every race, our good old road cars don't get such attention, they get fitted and left for years, it would be a safe bet to say that 99% of people do not check their brake lines either weekly or monthly, in fact I bet most don't even check them yearly!.

I have some pictures somewhere of failed brake lines, I will post them up if I find them, it's not pretty.

This post has been edited by Nial: Jul 14, 2015 - 4:02 PM

[BonzaiCelica]

I highly doubt I'll get OEM super strut lines. They are the same part number for ST202. Shouldn't be as spongy as braking with only two pistons vs 4?

[RWD_curren]

im really confused by this post... im using my oem st202 brake lines with SS front suspension and ST205 brakes with no problems... and even if they didn't work I would just make my own braided lines because its REALLY easy to do, and cheap.... whys is this a thread?

[83841]

I highly doubt I'll get OEM super strut lines. They are the same part number for ST202. Shouldn't be as spongy as braking with only two pistons vs 4?

I noticed that the ST202 braided brake lines is a single line for each side (goodridge).........as for the C-One or SAFEGUARD they are 2 piece line for each side like the OEM ones..... correct me if im wrong...


I am really surprised of the spongyness im getting on the rebuilt 4 pots celica calipars......

This post has been edited by 83841: Jul 15, 2015 - 8:51 AM

[BonzaiCelica]

Can someone explain or show pics of why you guys say superstrut lines have a design that allow them to pivot on their own.

I mean a McPherson set up has the line attached to the strut as well. And turning radius is even greater on a McPherson steering rack.

[BonzaiCelica]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HEL-Braided-BRAKE-...s-/271300601747

are these any good?

also, are the rear st205 brake lines shorter or longer than st202