Code P0130 adn p0133, after installing header and downpipe |
Code P0130 adn p0133, after installing header and downpipe |
Jan 8, 2016 - 1:19 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 10, '14 From Tulsa, OK Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
Hello: After installing the header and getting it all set, I am getting these two codes. I reset them once and these two come back again. I will check for leaks etc and the reading on the first O2 sensor (7aFE engine stock, 1996 ST HB). What else I need to look for?
How do I check for sensor circuit heater? thanks in advance. This post has been edited by msk59: Jan 8, 2016 - 1:25 PM |
Jan 8, 2016 - 2:39 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
did you put the O2 sensors back in?
did you swap them? -------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
Jan 9, 2016 - 12:59 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 30, '14 From Cortland NY Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
Might just be a faulty sensor or it might have a bad connection which could be remedied by re-plugging the connector. If everything was working fine before the new pipes were put on, most like one of these would be your answer. I'd imagine if it were leaking you would hear that especially under load considering its pre cat piping with no baffling to it.
-------------------- 1997 ST:Limitedly Green
This car is not about racing... This car is not about power or performance... It's purely about being cool. |
Jan 9, 2016 - 10:35 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 10, '14 From Tulsa, OK Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
did you put the O2 sensors back in? did you swap them? Yes, It is back in and I had to use the oval type flange to put it back in. I did not swap the 02 sensors. The new one did not come with one. igpx12. Yes everything was working before, I just wanted to add a header. So I installed one of these ebay headers with downpipe. I have to take the car to the shop to get two 3 inch SS pieces welded in so it reaches the existing cat. I plan on checking everything and reporting back This post has been edited by msk59: Jan 9, 2016 - 10:37 AM |
Jan 9, 2016 - 3:26 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 30, '14 From Cortland NY Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
Oh, well if you have the system open ended like that, most definitely thats gonna throw a code cause your downstream is plugged in and attempting to get a reading in combination with the upstream basically creating an open loop. Once you get it extended and close the loop you should be all set.
-------------------- 1997 ST:Limitedly Green
This car is not about racing... This car is not about power or performance... It's purely about being cool. |
Jan 9, 2016 - 4:35 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 10, '14 From Tulsa, OK Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
Not sure I understand what you are saying. The downpipe that came with the header was short in terms of reaching the cat. So I took it to the shop and added a piece that took care of that. There is nothing open at the moment. i will check for leaks but other than that it should be all closed. So both 02 sensors are in. I did not even touch the downstream sensor. I separated the original before the cat replaced that whole piece with the new one.
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Jan 9, 2016 - 5:22 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 25, '15 From United States Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
What he was meaning was that if you had an open exhaust that's going to cause the code. You had 3 inches missing from mid pipe to the cat so that'd explain why it threw a code. Reset your ecu and see if the light comes on.
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Jan 10, 2016 - 7:26 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 10, '14 From Tulsa, OK Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
Thank You. I pulled the header out and notice the header to down pipe gaskit is leaking already. Perhaps I did not tighten the bolts correctly. So waiting for a different new gasket from O'Rielly and will install tomorrow.
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Jan 10, 2016 - 10:43 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 25, '15 From United States Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
The junk gaskets they give you always leak. I had an obx header on my old celica... the gasket kit they gave me fell apart in my hands once I took them out of the packaging.
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Jan 10, 2016 - 11:54 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 10, '14 From Tulsa, OK Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
You are so right about the junk gasket and this whole eBay crap headers as well. First it did not fit, I had to drill holes bigger to make it fit. Then the down-pipe was short. That got fixed then it threw the codes, and now the gasket leaked. So far my cost of buying SS pipe and shop labor is about the same price I bought it for LOL.
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Jan 14, 2016 - 8:53 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 10, '14 From Tulsa, OK Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
Hello Guys: I am facing a new issue. After I discovered the leak (bad gasket) between the eBay header and the down pipe, I am stuck without a gasket. No one, even the seller does not offer spare gasket for that pipe. I have been pushing him to get me a couple so I can have one spare. So far no luck. He says he does not have spares nor he knows the part number. (This was my worst buying experience).
here is the vendor I purchased from: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Toyota-Celica-94-9...erformance-Race. If you look at the bottom, the second smaller gasket is the one I need. The measurements are 5 inches in the center from one side to side; the width is 2.75 inches exactly in the center. The top two holes are approximately 3.75 inches center to center. O'Reilly guys ordered some but they were smaller. I have found several similar on eBay and one has the measurements (showing ruler on it) that seems to fit and I have ordered it which will be here next week but fitment is not sure at this time. Any help or input would be appreciated. |
Jan 14, 2016 - 9:34 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 2, '07 From Berlin, WI Currently Offline Reputation: 18 (100%) |
just buy the material and make your own.
do you still have the leaking one. trace over that one and cut it out from this: http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/M...8&ppt=C0227 -------------------- *1997 Celica ST - 3SGE Greytop BEAMS *1977 Celica RA29 - Classic Cruiser *2005 Matrix AWD - dedded but still hanging around like a ghost 2019 Rav4 XLE Premium - Sports mode is fun. |
Jan 14, 2016 - 10:01 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 30, '14 From Cortland NY Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
Here is what you want, it will fit with that style header and downpipe
I've had to replace the original one that came with them too. http://www.ebay.com/itm/170832336685 -------------------- 1997 ST:Limitedly Green
This car is not about racing... This car is not about power or performance... It's purely about being cool. |
Jan 14, 2016 - 10:35 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 10, '14 From Tulsa, OK Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
Cheela: Thanks that was my second option.
Igpx12: Awesome thanks a million! This post has been edited by msk59: Jan 14, 2016 - 10:37 AM |
Mar 4, 2016 - 3:53 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 10, '14 From Tulsa, OK Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
OK after several gaskets I finally had to replace the studs on the header and install new gaskets. No leaks but the engine check light keep coming on after about 20 miles of driving. The O2 is still the old one. Should i replace the O2 at this point? This is frustrating because I cannot pinpoint the problem.
Any help would be appreciated. |
Mar 4, 2016 - 8:24 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 30, '14 From Cortland NY Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
Replacing the O2 would be your best bet, clearing codes from the ECU is only temporary and after like you experienced with driving, once the ECU tries to set values and calibrate it will pop the codes back up again. Last upstream O2 I got was from rockauto for 30.00 for a Denso.
-------------------- 1997 ST:Limitedly Green
This car is not about racing... This car is not about power or performance... It's purely about being cool. |
Mar 5, 2016 - 10:36 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 10, '14 From Tulsa, OK Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
thanks I plan on replacing the O2 sensor after i check the connections and wiring.
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Mar 5, 2016 - 10:51 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Most time heater circuit codes are just bad heater circuits, it's a little heating coil in the sensor and it does burn out with age. The fastest way to check them is with a noid light. http://www.amazon.com/Lisle-27800-Universa...ords=noid+light
Connect that to the heater circuit wires (the two blacks on the O2 sensor are heater circuit), it should flicker and flash when you start the car, indicating the circuit is working. You can also hold the O2 sensor in your hand out of the exhaust pipe and start the car and it should get rather hot in your hand. -------------------- |
Mar 5, 2016 - 11:55 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 10, '14 From Tulsa, OK Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
OK I will try that and see what happens. I found prices of replacement denso on RA really cheap. about 33 shipped.
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Mar 5, 2016 - 12:15 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I prefer the 'direct fit' so they just plug in, assuming the $30 one is one that needs to be spliced into the wiring. Not a big deal as long as you do the splices properly and seal the connections from the environment so you don't rot out your wiring. If you do need to splice it, do it on the sensor side of the wiring so you don't donk up the engine harness!
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