 Auto To Manual/Beams Swap Help!! |
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 Feb 13, 2016 - 9:36 PM
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So I've searched but, I need some clarification. I'm swapping in a beams 3sge and a manual into my auto 5s car. Now I'm confused on what I need to do to bypass the neutral safety switch so I can start the car without it being in park or neutral. Now I know that in a regular auto to manual swap I just wire two things together on the engine harness to make it work but since I'm swapping in the Beams engine this can't happen. What do I need to do to be able to start my car now since it is a stick and will have a Beams in it?
This post has been edited by 1994Celica: Feb 13, 2016 - 9:36 PM -------------------- JDM Part King
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Feb 13, 2016 - 11:26 PM
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QUOTE (1994Celica @ Feb 13, 2016 - 9:36 PM)  So I've searched but, I need some clarification. I'm swapping in a beams 3sge and a manual into my auto 5s car. Now I'm confused on what I need to do to bypass the neutral safety switch so I can start the car without it being in park or neutral. Now I know that in a regular auto to manual swap I just wire two things together on the engine harness to make it work but since I'm swapping in the Beams engine this can't happen. What do I need to do to be able to start my car now since it is a stick and will have a Beams in it? There's a switch / button on the auto shifter, those two wires need to get routed over to the clutch for the clutch switch (for when you have the clutch pushed in all the way). I think that's really it. |
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Feb 14, 2016 - 9:07 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 5, '09 From West Texas, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
QUOTE (mkernz22 @ Feb 13, 2016 - 11:26 PM) QUOTE (1994Celica @ Feb 13, 2016 - 9:36 PM) So I've searched but, I need some clarification. I'm swapping in a beams 3sge and a manual into my auto 5s car. Now I'm confused on what I need to do to bypass the neutral safety switch so I can start the car without it being in park or neutral. Now I know that in a regular auto to manual swap I just wire two things together on the engine harness to make it work but since I'm swapping in the Beams engine this can't happen. What do I need to do to be able to start my car now since it is a stick and will have a Beams in it? There's a switch / button on the auto shifter, those two wires need to get routed over to the clutch for the clutch switch (for when you have the clutch pushed in all the way). I think that's really it. Are you sure, that seems a little too easy.... -------------------- JDM Part King
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Feb 14, 2016 - 10:39 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 10, '10 From MA Currently Offline Reputation: 37 (100%) |
Well that's the neutral safety switch in the auto, the other is the neutral safety switch in the manual harness so I'm assuming you have to move it from one location to the other.
There should be a whole write up on 6GC about the Auto to Manual swap. http://www.6gc.net/howto/swap_auto_transmission_to_manual I know there is already a plug that is taped up above where the clutch petal would be in the auto, but I believe it's the Cruise Control disengage switch for when you press the clutch petal. |
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Feb 14, 2016 - 11:08 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 5, '09 From West Texas, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
Yeah I read the how to but I don't think it's completely applicable in my situation since his engine harness was an auto one.
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Feb 15, 2016 - 12:13 PM
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-------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
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Feb 15, 2016 - 1:53 PM
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QUOTE (Smaay @ Feb 15, 2016 - 12:13 PM) Thanks Smaay! That helped! -------------------- JDM Part King
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Feb 27, 2016 - 7:35 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 5, '09 From West Texas, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
Still need help! Still lost and have no idea how to get the car to start since the auto is removed. What do I need to bypass the neutral safety switch?
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Feb 27, 2016 - 11:04 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
i posted everything in that thread. I found the start signal from the fuse box behind the dash. i slaved in a new wire to the harness that plugs into the clutch switch.
other than that, i dont know how you did your wiring so i cant help much more -------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
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Feb 28, 2016 - 7:04 AM
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QUOTE (1994Celica @ Feb 27, 2016 - 6:35 PM) Still need help! Still lost and have no idea how to get the car to start since the auto is removed. What do I need to bypass the neutral safety switch? Do you have the wiring manual for your car? It will be easier to understand -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
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Feb 28, 2016 - 9:28 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 5, '09 From West Texas, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Feb 28, 2016 - 8:04 AM) QUOTE (1994Celica @ Feb 27, 2016 - 6:35 PM) Still need help! Still lost and have no idea how to get the car to start since the auto is removed. What do I need to bypass the neutral safety switch? Do you have the wiring manual for your car? It will be easier to understand I do have the wiring manual for my car -------------------- JDM Part King
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Feb 29, 2016 - 2:25 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 5, '09 From West Texas, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
Ok I think I have this figured out. I think I need to make a jumper wire from the AT path to id1. I drew it out, am I in the ballpark of what I need to do
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Feb 29, 2016 - 10:56 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
yes that is exactly what you need to do
-------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
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