Possible engine issues, please advise. |
Possible engine issues, please advise. |
Nov 2, 2016 - 3:27 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 11, '16 From lancashire Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Hi, basically I have started being very meticulous with my celica, basically trying to see and notice everything from it to try and fix a problem before it develops.
So basically I have put my focus on ring failure as apparently this is a common problem on 3sgte engines, so I took the dipstick out and did the checked for smoke when the engine was cold after starting and then at the end of the journey and I did that in the morning journey and afternoon journey so cold air then warm(ish) air, thankfully I couldn't see any smoke even when I blipped the throttle and still no smoke so does that mean I can rest easy or can you have ring failure or at least getting towards it without smoke coming out of the dipstick? Is there any other ways to check if the rings are gone or are about to go? Just a couple of other little bits that get me a bit worried is that the exhaust does smoke pretty badly during cold startups (would've though just condensation from cold air but worth checking) but not when warm and there tends to be quite a strong smell of petrol on start up, also sometimes it can struggle to start so it'll sort of fire up then drop then go back up a few times before idling steadily - although this only happened once. Also one thing that worried me was when I was checking the oil first I looked at the exhaust and there was actually a lot of smoke coming out of the exhaust when it was warm however I blipped the throttle a few times and it cleared up? it's never done this before or since. And finally the idle is relatively rough when warm, the tachometer needle barely moves so probably doesn't change by any less that 50rpm, its not terrible but I just want to put it out there just in case it indicates something more serious. I understand that realistically since I haven't noticed a drop in power it won't be anything serious but I just want to check that there isn't anything that I haven't picked up on cheers |
Nov 2, 2016 - 7:12 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Check the intake piping for oil build up and the turbo for leaking oil seals, check compression and do a leak down test.
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Nov 3, 2016 - 8:25 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 11, '16 From lancashire Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Ok I'll try to get around to it ASAP, it might be a while before I am able to do a compression check though.
Any ideas on if the symptoms I am having are fairly normal under certain circumstances or can they happen to a fairly healthy engine? |
Nov 3, 2016 - 8:30 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Depends on a number of factors, a healthy engine with normal oil blow by or one with a little oil blow by or a slightly leaking turbo, can over time put a bit of oil into the intake tract which will then be ingested and smoke really badly or even misfire and run rough, once it's cleaned out the engine is fine again. Valve seals can leak oil over night and give a puff of gray or white oily smoke on startup or when the engine is revved up.
Also depends how it's typically driven, how often it's driven, how long it sits between trips, length of trips, etc etc. -------------------- |
Nov 4, 2016 - 7:20 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 11, '16 From lancashire Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I just took the intake pipe off, there was a bit of grime but no actual oil, now something I did actually just remember is I'm fairly sure I was under the car and I looked up to the intake pipe and there actually was a drop of oil making its way down, the bottom of the intake pipe is split where it joins onto the turbo but not any further.
So it could very well be the turbo Couple of things I'm remembering about my turbo, sometimes on the motorway when I'm on boost it can sound "uneven" the turbo pressure does not change and neither does the acceleration but the turbo sounds like its changing, sort of like it's spooling and then letting off then spooling again very quickly. |
Nov 4, 2016 - 7:00 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Fluttering?
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Nov 4, 2016 - 7:03 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 11, '16 From lancashire Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
No no definitely not fluttering that would be a huge red flag.
Imagine the turbo spooling normally it TTSSSHHHH It would then sort of go more like TtTsSsHhHh if that makes sense, it's only faint but still something that could be a problem. |
Nov 5, 2016 - 9:15 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Hmm...that's out of my area of knowledge but take a close look at the vacuum hoses for splits, rotting, cracks, and take a close look at the intake system for the same issues on both pressure and non pressure sides. Vacuum and boost leaks can do weird things, so can un-metered air entering the system.
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